Who really is Satan?

[HappyJ]

Peter denied Jesus 3 times.
That means Peter
lied 3 times that he
did not know Jesus.

It is written...

Matthew 10
32 Whosoever therefore shall
confess me before men,
him will I confess also
before my Father
which is in heaven.

33 But whosoever shall
deny me before men,
him will I also deny
before my Father
which is in heaven.

Will Jesus honor His word
and deny Peter to God His Father?

John 6:70
Jesus answered them,
Have not I chosen you twelve,
and one of you is a devil?

Matthew 16:23
But he turned, and said unto Peter,
Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me:
for thou savourest not the things that be of God,
but those that be of men.

Is Satan the devil whom Jesus referred to Peter
or was Jesus referring to Peter as Satan the devil?

[phareztamar]

Who really is Satan?

Why of course its the apostle Peter. Full moon tonight?

[HappyJ]

Originally Posted by phareztamar

Who really is Satan?

Why of course its the apostle Peter. Full moon tonight?

I either have to believe
what is written in the new testament
or I either do not.

It is written word for word
that Jesus addressed Peter as Satan
and it is written word for word
that Peter did deny Jesus 3 times.

And it is written that Jesus said
Whosoever therefore shall
confess me before men,
him will I confess also
before my Father
which is in heaven.
But whosoever shall
deny me before men,
him will I also deny
before my Father
which is in heaven.

So either it is true or it is not true.
I am just trying to find out so I can believe the truth.

[phareztamar]

Originally Posted by HappyJ

I either have to believe
what is written in the new testament
or I either do not.

It is written word for word
that Jesus addressed Peter as Satan
and it is written word for word
that Peter did deny Jesus 3 times.

And it is written that Jesus said
Whosoever therefore shall
confess me before men,
him will I confess also
before my Father
which is in heaven.
But whosoever shall
deny me before men,
him will I also deny
before my Father
which is in heaven.

So either it is true or it is not true.
I am just trying to find out so I can believe the truth.

Okay, so I answered you Bert. What else do you want me to say?

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by phareztamar

Who really is Satan?

Why of course its the apostle Peter. Full moon tonight?

Nope it is Hellary Clinton.

[Servant's <3]

Really??...... really?

So Peter is chosen to basically start the New Testament church and performs all kinds of miracles in Jesus name. Jesus sends him a vision for gentiles and Peter strives for the rest of his life to do what Jesus told him to do until his execution because of the name of Jesus and you somehow get the notion that Peter will be denied by Jesus? Peter professed Jesus name until his murder. So the very notion he didn't because of 3 trials that he failed doesn't wash.

By your logic there is no such thing as forgiveness?...

If Peter isn't going to heaven Lord knows none of the rest of us are. Heaven gonna be pretty much empty by your logic.

Paul didn't believe Jesus was the Christ either initially, so according to you he also is going to hell. Peter also wrote some books of the bible.... if he is going to hell they should be ignored.

All manner of sins (pretty much) can be forgiven, including denying Jesus. One must be truly repentant but it can be forgiven.

[mfblume]

Wisdom is justified of her children. I see no justification in this op.

[HappyJ]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Wisdom is justified of her children. I see no justification in this op.

Then do not read it.

[HappyJ]

Originally Posted by Servant's <3

Really??...... really?

So Peter is chosen to basically start the New Testament church and performs all kinds of miracles in Jesus name. Jesus sends him a vision for gentiles and Peter strives for the rest of his life to do what Jesus told him to do until his execution because of the name of Jesus and you somehow get the notion that Peter will be denied by Jesus? Peter professed Jesus name until his murder. So the very notion he didn't because of 3 trials that he failed doesn't wash.

By your logic there is no such thing as forgiveness?...

If Peter isn't going to heaven Lord knows none of the rest of us are. Heaven gonna be pretty much empty by your logic.

Paul didn't believe Jesus was the Christ either initially, so according to you he also is going to hell. Peter also wrote some books of the bible.... if he is going to hell they should be ignored.

All manner of sins (pretty much) can be forgiven, including denying Jesus. One must be truly repentant but it can be forgiven.

I understand your attitude towards me.
The facts I have presented right from the bible as it is written
word for word is not in line with that doctrine and theology
to which you were indoctrinated into and believe or adhere to
as the truth.

However be it as it may
I would greatly enjoy discussing anything I have posted
with anyone as long as we adhere to the undeniable proven facts
and leave off with unproven opinions, doctrines, theologies and innuendos.

As you can read I have not said one way or the other as to what I actually believe. In fact I am just plainly seeking
the undeniable proved truth.

[HappyJ]

Now the devil was more subtil
than any spirit in the Christian churches.
And he said unto HappyJ, Yea, hath Jesus said,
unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan:
And HappyJ said unto the devil, I believe Jesus word for word.
And the devil said unto the Word,

Originally Posted by Servant's <3

Really??...... really?

So Peter is chosen to basically start the New Testament church and performs all kinds of miracles in Jesus name. Jesus sends him a vision for gentiles and Peter strives for the rest of his life to do what Jesus told him to do until his execution because of the name of Jesus and you somehow get the notion that Peter will be denied by Jesus? Peter professed Jesus name until his murder. So the very notion he didn't because of 3 trials that he failed doesn't wash.

By your logic there is no such thing as forgiveness?...

If Peter isn't going to heaven Lord knows none of the rest of us are. Heaven gonna be pretty much empty by your logic.

Paul didn't believe Jesus was the Christ either initially, so according to you he also is going to hell. Peter also wrote some books of the bible.... if he is going to hell they should be ignored.

All manner of sins (pretty much) can be forgiven, including denying Jesus. One must be truly repentant but it can be forgiven.