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04-11-2016, 05:23 PM
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What the Never-Trumpers don't get....
....but Rush does...
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Trump is the vehicle for victory overwhelming, overcoming the establishment, what happens if Trump doesn't win? The establishment holds on. If Trump doesn't win, no matter what. If the Trumpists represent one half of the voters of the Republican Party, and then if every one of them stops voting Republican, that is not gonna end the Republican establishment.
And, furthermore, the Republican establishment won't care. That's the problem. They won't care. As long as they hold on to their fiefdom, as long as there is a Republican Party, and as long as the people who run it continue to run it, then beating back this latest insurgency, they will consider to be a victory. Not whether they win the White House or not. Their first order of business right now is to beat back the insurgency, the rabble-rousers, the peasants with the pitchforks.
That's their first objective right now. And if they have to roll up their sleeves and work with Ted Cruz for a couple of months to do it, they'll do it. But then Cruz is gonna be their next target. (interruption) Don't doubt me. (interruption) Don't shake your heads in there. Don't doubt me on this. These are people hanging on for dear life. These are people in a car that has gone over the cliff; it's sinking to the bottom of the lake. They're struggling to get the windows open and swim out of that car, and they're gonna do everything they can to live.
They're not gonna allow Trump to push that car over the cliff with the doors and windows locked, or Cruz, for that matter. So my only point is this: If Trump, as a candidate, ends up being defeated, and if he doesn't get to 1,237, do you see him winning on a second or third ballot, given what you've seen happen this weekend? Well, some people don't, but even though you've gotta realize something. If everybody's out there buying delegates, don't forget Trump has Mar-a-Lago.
I mean, if you're gonna wine and dine delegates, Trump's got Trump Force One. I mean, Trump's... There you go once again: Insulting delegates, thinking they can be bought off with... (interruption) Well, can I give you some names? (chuckling) No, folks, I'm just kidding. Look, the anti-establishment movement is real. It's a lot of people. But if it doesn't succeed in making great, great inroads in the establishment this time around, it's gonna be a long time before it happens again. The establishment's gonna be well girded, well protected -- and this is for keeps. That's why...
I'm sorry. All of this is precisely why the focus on Hillary and Obama and the Democrats has been lost, because right now people are in a life-and-death struggle over their identity, their self-worth and any number of other things.
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04-11-2016, 05:50 PM
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Re: What the Never-Trumpers don't get....
Trump does not have a hope to win the presidency.
The majority would like him to but the GOP will have him assassinated before that.
This thing is going to get real hairy, real soon.
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04-11-2016, 05:56 PM
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Re: What the Never-Trumpers don't get....
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Originally Posted by Birddog
Trump does not have a hope to win the presidency.
The majority would like him to but the GOP will have him assassinated before that.
This thing is going to get real hairy, real soon.
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I agree. I think some of our brethren would actually be relieved if he did.
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04-11-2016, 08:39 PM
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Re: What the Never-Trumpers don't get....
Cruz is for sure the one who could not beat Hillary. America is a Liberals paradise. The demographics says Hilary beats him. Trump is different. He not especially a "conservative".
If he builds the wall and protects the first and second amendment thats the most we could hope for in this nation today.
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04-11-2016, 10:17 PM
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Re: What the Never-Trumpers don't get....
Why not Carson or Fiorini as anti establishment?
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04-11-2016, 10:46 PM
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Re: What the Never-Trumpers don't get....
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Why not Carson or Fiorini as anti establishment?
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Carson does not have the personal charisma (entertainment value) that Trump has. He also has too much common sense and that is not what the establishment wants.
Fiorini? Not even close.
She would lose to HRC hands down. She knows it to.
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04-12-2016, 02:40 AM
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Re: What the Never-Trumpers don't get....
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Carson does not have the personal charisma (entertainment value) that Trump has. He also has too much common sense and that is not what the establishment wants.
Fiorini? Not even close.
She would lose to HRC hands down. She knows it to.
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So a president needs entertainment value? Personally Ive never found him entertaining
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04-12-2016, 03:54 PM
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Re: What the Never-Trumpers don't get....
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So a president needs entertainment value? Personally Ive never found him entertaining
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Carson is like dry cornbread, no charisma or charm at all.
Trump has both,he is an entertainer. That is what the popular vote wants. They, raised on Hollywood, need a entertainer. They have found that in Trump.
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04-11-2016, 11:58 PM
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Re: What the Never-Trumpers don't get....
Fiorini? Anti establishment? BWAHAHAHA!!!
Good one.
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04-12-2016, 02:40 AM
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Re: What the Never-Trumpers don't get....
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Fiorini? Anti establishment? BWAHAHAHA!!!
Good one.
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she is as much as Trump, not being a Politician
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