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Old 10-10-2015, 09:46 PM
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Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine

I would like to hear from those who were not raised believing preterism/partial preterism, who went from the rapture/end times teaching to that. I am not interested in another debate on it. I seriously would like to hear from those who have changed their beliefs in this area and what lead to it.

If you believe in the rapture, no need to respond or debate in this thread as I would like to be able to read what caused people to change their thinking on this subject. I pose this as a serious question. It is something I have not yet studied and I am curious as to what lead to people changing their views, especially in light of how some apostolic groups, such as the UPC, take a strong stand against preterism.

Thank you in advance for sharing---Benincasa, Blume, Esaias & others!
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:36 PM
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Partial preterism was not what I was raised in. But I saw it in my studies and was amazed to see others seeing it then as well.

Technically the rapture only refers to the catching away of the church. But most associate rapture with the tribulation period, predominantly a secret rapture before the tribulation begins. And I do not believe that. I believe in the technical catching away element alone.
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Partial preterism was not what I was raised in. But I saw it in my studies and was amazed to see others seeing it then as well.
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If it was what you saw when you studied why were you amazed that others saw it as well?
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:56 PM
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I was raised by Search for Truth. Took a while, but I found it. Having said that, there is some truth in Search for Truth.

I would classify my view as Partial Preterist, but definitely was raised and taught futurism.
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I was raised by Search for Truth. Took a while, but I found it.
What caused you to look into the teaching and question what you had been taught?
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Old 10-11-2015, 12:11 AM
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What caused you to look into the teaching and question what you had been taught?
At a time in my life when I was evaluating where I was and where I was going, I made a prayer and a promise to God I would search His word for myself, with His help and study all doctrines I had been taught. I started on the Oneness of God, got the resolved, then Jesus name baptism, resolved that as well. I then took an interest I the end times and, for a time, became a resolute proponent of pre-trib teachings, but Matt 24 was not making sense. I kept studying and then it seemed post-trib fit better, but still some loose ends and was really difficult to present it honestly, as I was trying to be honest and not merely trying to confirm or prove what I already thought I believed as I sincerely wanted what was truth, not necessarily what was popular.
Larry T. Smith came out with some teachings that I thought should be easily refutable, but the more I looked at what he was presenting, it filled in the loose ends I had. The more I studied, the more it became clear to me that Matt 24 in particular was directed to that generation that saw the temple destroyed. It occurred in AD70. I now don't have to evade or breeze over the scriptures that didn't fit pre-mid or post trib teachings.
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If it was what you saw when you studied why were you amazed that others saw it as well?
The thing seems like a move of God. I had no other explanation. What a blessing!
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Partial preterism was not what I was raised in. But I saw it in my studies and was amazed to see others seeing it then as well.
But what got you to look into the subject?
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But what got you to look into the subject?
I just preached from Matthew chapter after chapter, focusing on the work of the cross. And suddenly I saw where chapter 24 was about the cross and judgment in their generation not ours. I also heard long ago the 70 weeks of Daniel saw the cross stop sacrifices not some future antichrist. Then it started to come otogether for me. I had no intentions in studying prophecy. Just the cross. The cross led me to it.
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine

I was taught the rapture doctrine and I believed it for a long time.

However one day I read an article by Ralph Woodrow that said the 70 weeks were actually 70th continuous weeks.

I was surprised, so I begun studying the 70 weeks of Daniel and eventually became convinced that the 70 weeks of Daniel were actually continuous, there was no reason to insert a fictitious gap between the 69 and the 70 week.

from then on slowly but surely I begun to abandon some prophetic views that just did not agree with the Bible. I wanted to know what the Bible say, not what a denomination taught.
For a long time I believe I was the only Apostolic Partial Preterist in the world, until I eventually found other Apostolics who also believed as I did.
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