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12-21-2014, 01:30 PM
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Over 400 voice why they left church.
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12-21-2014, 01:33 PM
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Re: Over 400 voice why they left church.
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For 35 years I have struggled to go to church. I am not a singer, I am a bit of an introvert and every week I force myself to mix and be part of several church groups. It finally dawned on me that God was not asking this sacrifice of me and I have stopped going. For the first time in years I am actively enjoying being a follower of Jesus and have tremendous peace, joy and happiness. It is as though I have been set free to live my life and I no longer feel depressed. I feel that I am serving God properly at long last by being a peaceful, loving, kind presence in the world rather than a depressed, harassed bundle of nerves. I have learned a lot from the Church, but in the end, for my sanity I had to leave.
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Im an introvert too. Never felt it was a sacrifice to go to church. I want to. I suspect that is about her more than the church
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-21-2014, 01:46 PM
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Re: Over 400 voice why they left church.
hmm.
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12-22-2014, 08:44 AM
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Re: Over 400 voice why they left church.
As long as she continues to send her tithes in I think the church will be fine with it.
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12-22-2014, 12:44 PM
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Re: Over 400 voice why they left church.
There needs to be a greater understanding that each one of us are part of the body that makes up the church. Church is not a building. It is a gathering together of all the parts of the body with Christ being the head. Believers are all part of the church, and church is not a place to attend or a building.
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12-22-2014, 01:36 PM
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Re: Over 400 voice why they left church.
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
There needs to be a greater understanding that each one of us are part of the body that makes up the church. Church is not a building. It is a gathering together of all the parts of the body with Christ being the head. Believers are all part of the church, and church is not a place to attend or a building.
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I'm not disagreeing with you but can you take that a step further and say that if you are a "believer" you will be where believers are at? The bible does speak of all believers being together and having all things common. There were gathering of believers together in cities (churches) in the bible.
I must admit this is something that I think about often
That being said I would think if you are fellowshipping with a group of like-minded, truth seeking, God fearing, holy people, you may be a believer but you are not a part of "the church".
- The bible does speak of the "true church".
- If the church is what Kept described, Paul wouldn't have had to meet Peter and receive the right hand of fellowship from Peter if he was already in "the church"?
I am soliciting feedback on this. Feel free to comment.
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Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism
1 Corinthians 1:10 - Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith ...
Last edited by Esphes45; 12-22-2014 at 01:38 PM.
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12-22-2014, 01:22 PM
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Re: Over 400 voice why they left church.
I like this one...
"I don't go to church because I am the church. I used to go. I used to be on the worship team. I was "spiritual". But after all said and done.... It was all a lie. Yeah I had issues then and still do and I'm growing and learning. But one thing is for sure... Jesus died so we can be free. Freedom from a man's religion, freedom from lies, freedom to who God created us to be. The bible says to have fellowship... I do. I have tons of friends who are believers and worship God. I learn from a lot of the older Christian men at work. The bible says that undefiled religion is to father the fatherless, take care of the widows, feed the poor. Jesus also said there will be those who say "Lord we have done this and that in your name". He replies away from me you workers of iniquity. I never knew you. Scary huh.... I have relised that we are the temple of God. Jesus died so we don't have to go behind the veil in order to see God. He is already in us. Pharisees still exist. Peace"
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Philippians 2:12 - ...Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling
Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism
1 Corinthians 1:10 - Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith ...
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12-22-2014, 04:05 PM
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Re: Over 400 voice why they left church.
The Epistles were written to who? The church who was a BODY of believers. How can anyone from the early church who didn't congregate get the message from the epistles? They must've congregated somewhere together to get the message whether it was a house, or a building that we call a church. Just sayin'.
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12-22-2014, 04:45 PM
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Re: Over 400 voice why they left church.
The Church was built and centered around corporate worship
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-22-2014, 08:35 PM
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Re: Over 400 voice why they left church.
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The Epistles were written to who? The church who was a BODY of believers. How can anyone from the early church who didn't congregate get the message from the epistles? They must've congregated somewhere together to get the message whether it was a house, or a building that we call a church. Just sayin'.
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I think Bro. Eastman made my point. The body is a group of believers that are together.
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Philippians 2:12 - ...Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling
Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism
1 Corinthians 1:10 - Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith ...
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