Gun Control-Here we go again.

[scotty]

Mass shooting prompts calls from Capitol Hill and beyond for tighter gun laws

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz21Lyqr89W

I am an active supporter of the right to bear arms. I both hunt and target shoot. Own handguns, rifles, and shotguns.

The Senator here is wanting to ban high capacity magazines. The first point I would like to make, as I'm sure RandyWayne can agree. High capacity clips had nothing to do with the Colorado shooting. Yes, it allowed him to fire off more rounds consecutively, but the time it takes one to drop a clip from an AR15, slap another one in, and chamber the first round is about 5 seconds. (for someone practiced, 10 seconds for a newbie) So the fact is, high capacity clips might have saved 1 in the overall scheme of the shooting. Or he could have stood there an extra 1 minute and still done the same damage.

Now, that being said, can any of you fellow gun owners think of any reasons at all why we would be against this ban? Personally, I see no need for high capacity clips. Other than having to stop and reload when target practicing, which I can live with. And for hunting, well, as grandpa always said, if it takes you more than one round you need to go back and shoot some more cans.

So honestly, if the ban covers JUST high capacity magazines, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

What say ye ?

[Cindy]

What about knives, blunt objects, etc............?

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Cindy

What about knives, blunt objects, etc............?

Well that falls back on the fact that people kill people, regardless of what weapon they use. In this case the weapon allowed him to kill more at one time.

I doubt they will go after gun control altogether. The article goes on to point out that everytime the Dems pass a gun control measure they lose seats in the following election.

[RandyWayne]

How much magazine capacity it "too much!"? The arbitrary number given is usually 10 but why 10? My Ruger 9mm clips are 15, my AR is 30, and I have have a banana clip for my 22LR of 25. Why is the number 10 so magical?

And if it really ISN'T magical then why make the law and create even more precedent for further gun control under the guise of "We have to do something!"?

[RandyWayne]

And I still believe this whole shooting was a major hoax. After all, the shooter, Holmes, couldn't have had a gun in that particular theater -they weren't allowed in it! The "No Firearms!" sign on the front should have told him that!

I mean HAD he taken a gun into that theater he would have been breaking the "No Firearms!" allowed policy of the establishment and would have REALLY been breaking the law! At least all the law abiding carriers of concealed firearms had the good sense to not break that particular rule!

[BroJoe]

I wonder what would have happened had 2 or 3 people been armed in that theatre...

I wonder what would have happened had a few people decided to fight back.

I wonder...

Instead...we will now decided whether or not to take what little teeth we have to bite, away from us...

[scotty]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

I wonder what would have happened had 2 or 3 people been armed in that theatre...

I wonder what would have happened had a few people decided to fight back.

I wonder...

Instead...we will now decided whether or not to take what little teeth we have to bite, away from us...

Then 2 or 3 more people would have died.

Lets not forget the body armour he had on. If someone had returned fire it would have been useless, plus they would have been singled out by him and unless body armour was the dress code for the day, they would have died.

I see the point your making and I agree with the premise, but in this case returning fire would have done nothing more than made you a prime target.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Limiting magazine capacity is almost a pointless gesture.

We don't need symbolism and we don't need a knee-jerk reaction to a senseless tragedy.

I am against this 100%

Now, in times past I have been in favor of limiting the types of guns and rifles that can be bought by civilians.

There's no need for a civilian to have a machine gun or rocket launcher.

I am unsure how I feel about civilians having the ability to purchase AR-15's. Just don't see the civilian purpose, but don't want to open the door any wider to restrict any more freedom either.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by scotty

Then 2 or 3 more people would have died.

Lets not forget the body armour he had on. If someone had returned fire it would have been useless, plus they would have been singled out by him and unless body armour was the dress code for the day, they would have died.

I see the point your making and I agree with the premise, but in this case returning fire would have done nothing more than made you a prime target.

Very likely 2 or 3 firing (and hitting him) WOULD have ended the rampage quickly. Body armor isn't a magical substance which bullets bounce off of leaving the wearer unharmed. While BA does save lives by keeping nearly all rounds from penetrating it still feels like your being punched when hit with a round. The bullet can even break bones through it! Yes, 2 or 3 firing at him would have ended it after getting disoriented but from the body blows and finally getting shot in the head/arms/legs.

[BroJoe]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Very likely 2 or 3 firing (and hitting him) WOULD have ended the rampage quickly. Body armor isn't a magical substance which bullets bounce off of leaving the wearer unharmed. While BA does save lives by keeping nearly all rounds from penetrating it still feels like your being punched when hit with a round. The bullet can even break bones through it! Yes, 2 or 3 firing at him would have ended it after getting disoriented but from the body blows and finally getting shot in the head/arms/legs.

This too. The guy would have been shaken up. He obviously expected some type of engagement with law enforcement, otherwise he wouldn't have protected his body as such. But I wonder if he would have expected two or three people to be armed inside the actual theater.

I'm betting it would have tossed him off balance a bit.