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Old 05-30-2012, 06:41 PM
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Gay Hate?

i can see where hate speech laws are going with this video.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1555735.html
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:47 PM
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That is just too sad and shameful.
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:56 PM
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Re: Gay Hate?

I have a facebook friend who has posted some of these things. While I do not agree that all of them are taken in context, I have stated that there are many better ways to express our disapproval of sinful lifestyles. We need to be known for having mercy and grace in our hearts. This does not mean that we embrace, condone, or accept sin, but rather that we lovingly teach and preach against it in the fulness of the love of Jesus. Let His example with the women who were living immoral lifestyles be our guide when dealing with those outside of the church who are living the same.
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i can see where hate speech laws are going with this video.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1555735.html
The right for them to say these things are untouchable. That does not mean it's not crude or insensitive - it is.

For me, the biggest problem is the age of this child. I would have walked out with my family.
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:38 PM
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The right for them to say these things are untouchable. That does not mean it's not crude or insensitive - it is.

For me, the biggest problem is the age of this child. I would have walked out with my family.
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:48 PM
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I would have likely done the very same thing. I do not understand how they can do these things.
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i can see where hate speech laws are going with this video.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1555735.html
Perhasp some people will bash this video as hateful.

but first of all this boy singing does not call for the murder or bashing of homosexuals.

The boy is actually singing a truth from the Bible, that no homosexual will make it into heaven, that is unless that homosexual repents and becomes a Christian.

Perhaps the fact that it is a little boy singing it, makes it seem outrageous to some, but What if the little boy sung, no adulterer will make it into heaven, would that be acceptable?

God in the old testament mandated death for the homosexual, he now mandates repentance, big change.

Can we accuse God of being homophic because he mandated the death penalty for homosexuality? Who is God to impose his desire upon the whole nation of Israel or the whole world?

We can accept the word of God and accept that he is a righteous holy God and homosexuality is not compatible with salvation or we can accuse God of being an intolerable hateful homophobic.

Homosexuals call anything but approval of their lifestyle as hate, well I know that my God is Love, yet he does not give his approval to that lifestyle.
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Perhasp some people will bash this video as hateful.

but first of all this boy singing does not call for the murder or bashing of homosexuals.

The boy is actually singing a truth from the Bible, that no homosexual will make it into heaven, that is unless that homosexual repents and becomes a Christian.

Perhaps the fact that it is a little boy singing it, makes it seem outrageous to some, but What if the little boy sung, no adulterer will make it into heaven, would that be acceptable?

God in the old testament mandated death for the homosexual, he now mandates repentance, big change.

Can we accuse God of being homophic because he mandated the death penalty for homosexuality? Who is God to impose his desire upon the whole nation of Israel or the whole world?

We can accept the word of God and accept that he is a righteous holy God and homosexuality is not compatible with salvation or we can accuse God of being an intolerable hateful homophobic.

Homosexuals call anything but approval of their lifestyle as hate, well I know that my God is Love, yet he does not give his approval to that lifestyle.
I would not like it if little kids were singing about adultery either.

About the bolded portions - I agree.
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I would not like it if little kids were singing about adultery either.

About the bolded portions - I agree.
well the bible in the old testament told them to instruct their kids morning and night time about the laws. psalms or songs i guess was a standard way of teaching kids some way to help them remember it. However i do agree.

But there isnt really any point in bashing a gay person for being gay. If they dont believe what the word of God says, then your not going to convience them of their sin.

But the day the word of God comes alive then progression can move foward.

I also want to point back to parenting for a minute about a situation my pastor brought up at a youth rally convention. I think the boy was around 12-14 years old. After service they had alter call and this boy was up their praying that he wouldnt be gay. so my buddy asked him do you think you are gay?

Come to find out it was the parents verbal abuse of the child, cause the child wasnt manly enough so the father kept down grading the kid to that of a person who was gay. He heard it so much he thought he was turning into one.

its a sad story but stuff like this happends all the time.
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well the bible in the old testament told them to instruct their kids morning and night time about the laws. psalms or songs i guess was a standard way of teaching kids some way to help them remember it. However i do agree.

But there isnt really any point in bashing a gay person for being gay. If they dont believe what the word of God says, then your not going to convience them of their sin.
It works quite often, though. Gay kids growing up in Christian families often do believe, and are convinced/convicted of their sin. It's just that they can't do anything about it, other than fall into depression, perhaps consider suicide, sometimes going through with it. At least, that's a common response. There are stories of deliverance, and turning straight. Seems to be very rare, though. Didn't work for the founders of Exodus International, but I suppose it's possible for some.
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