Gotta admit folks I don't think I've ever seen a true miracle. In the 12 years I've went to church, not once did I see a demon cast out, someone raise from the dead, or a healing. By healing I mean - cancer healed completely immediately without drugs, brain damage healed, AIDS healed, or someone with a true physical handicap made whole, etc. I've heard stories from other saints claiming someone split their head while running the aisles and God healed it instantly.
If you've seen a true, 100% miracle please tell your story!
I have seen Demons cast out. I have "seen" healings, without medical interventions, and aside from that the many other kinds of miracles like prophetic utterences, works of knowledge, visons and dreams
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I've certainly been around miracles, many involving ourselves (and non-health related -my whole life is one!) but as far as seeing a physical supernatural occurrence like a missing limb appear (NOT lengthened) where there wasn't one, someone being raised from the dead who was REALLY dead and not just clinically so for a few minutes, or someone blind suddenly able to see, no I have not.
I've seen hundreds of people say their back pain magically vanished though!
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I'm looking more for supernatural, divine, physical miracles.
I think most would agree that a healthy baby growing inside a woman from a double cell and being born is a miracle but it's something that happens everyday.
I'm looking more for supernatural, divine, physical miracles.
I think most would agree that a healthy baby growing inside a woman from a double cell and being born is a miracle but it's something that happens everyday.
You hit on something. There ARE supernatural miracles everywhere but virtually all of them are the result of God's unbelievably planning from the beginning. For instance, the ultimate miracles is the one which happened 13.7 billion years ago when God set the Universe in motion from a single point of origin. The fine tuning and planning is something beyond human comprehension. Earth is not only at a "just right" spot in our solar system, but our solar system is at a "just right" spot in our galaxy and it could even be said that our galaxy is at a "just right" spot in our local cluster. We are living in a "just right" period of time where our sun is at its most stable for advanced life and part of what makes that possible is that it is a 2nd generation star (being formed from remnants of earlier ones) which gives it the proper chemistry and our planet all the heavy elements like gold and uranium.
Yet, despite how awesome creation is many want to turn it into the equivalent of Jeanie (from I Dream Of Jeanie) folding her arms and bobbing her head up and down with a might bonk! and having everything appear as we see it today.
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You hit on something. There ARE supernatural miracles everywhere but virtually all of them are the result of God's unbelievably planning from the beginning. For instance, the ultimate miracles is the one which happened 13.7 billion years ago when God set the Universe in motion from a single point of origin. The fine tuning and planning is something beyond human comprehension. Earth is not only at a "just right" spot in our solar system, but our solar system is at a "just right" spot in our galaxy and it could even be said that our galaxy is at a "just right" spot in our local cluster. We are living in a "just right" period of time where our sun is at its most stable for advanced life and part of what makes that possible is that it is a 2nd generation star (being formed from remnants of earlier ones) which gives it the proper chemistry and our planet all the heavy elements like gold and uranium.
Yet, despite how awesome creation is many want to turn it into the equivalent of Jeanie (from I Dream Of Jeanie) folding her arms and bobbing her head up and down with a might bonk! and having everything appear as we see it today.
Your right, it's amazing.
I still wonder why there aren't more wondrous physical miracles to help prove the existence of an Almighty God, and encourage those low on faith.
I still wonder why there aren't more wondrous physical miracles to help prove the existence of an Almighty God, and encourage those low on faith.
Probably because it nearly every case it puffs up the head of the person who performed it via laying on of hands or anointing with oil and draws attention to them more than it does God. Jesus Himself performed many but then again there isn't anything wrong with the attention being Him.
I still wonder why there aren't more wondrous physical miracles to help prove the existence of an Almighty God, and encourage those low on faith.
The bible provides us with the tools. Prayer and Fasting as well as reading the word of God. The more you build up your faith that way the more you will see miracles. Mat 17:20 And Jesus said to them, Because of your unbelief. For truly I say to you, If you have faith like a grain of mustard seed, you shall say to this mountain, Move from here to there. And it shall move. And nothing shall be impossible to you. Mat 17:21 However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting. Rom 10:17 Then faith is of hearing, and hearing by the Word of God
Jud 1:20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up in your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,
Sadly this message has been replaced by a psuedo "magic" formula of uncut hair and incantations or invoking magic words.
While I do believe whole heartedly on calling on the name of Jesus, it's our faith IN His name that is active, not the vocalization of the sounds
Act 3:5 And he fixed his attention on them, expecting to receive something from them. Act 3:6 But Peter said, "I have no silver and gold, but what I do have I give to you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk!" Act 3:7 And he took him by the right hand and raised him up, and immediately his feet and ankles were made strong. Act 3:8 And leaping up he stood and began to walk, and entered the temple with them, walking and leaping and praising God.
Act 3:16 And his name--by faith in his name--has made this man strong whom you see and know, and the faith that is through Jesus has given the man this perfect health in the presence of you all.
Many UPCs focus on works and standards and tongues as evidence but not on faith and the gifts of the Spirit.
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.