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05-05-2011, 10:43 AM
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No OBL Photo, But Abu Ghraib, Saddam Hussein Ok
Isn't it odd that the same people who demanded that the public see the "atrocities" at Abu Ghraib and the hanging of Saddam Hussein are afraid that pictures of a dead OBL will be inflammatory?
Didn't it inflame hatred in the hearts of Muslims to see Muslim insurgents in prison with underwear on their head and prison guards cloating over them? But the liberals and the media cried out for transparency and that the world needed to know what our troops were doing to these prisoners even if it embarrassed our president and tarnished our military's image?
Didn't it inflame the Saddam Hussein supporters in the insurgency when they saw their former president hung from a rope? But the liberals and media demanded full disclosure, we needed to see this footage! We are a nation that shows the good, the bad and the ugly! We are morally superior because we have nothing to hide! We air it all out---we have an independent, free press that does NOT do the bidding of people in power to protect them, blah, blah, blah...
Show us the dang pictures of a dead OBL! Recruiting tool? Seriously? The only recruiting tool the perveyors of hate need are the schools the start these kids in very young teaching them a religion of hate, murder, anti-Israel, anti-America, glorifying death, martyrdom and suicide.
Do you really think pictures of a dead OBL is going to make them hate us more? Give me a break! I'm sick of the cow towing to the sensitivities of Islam! They are cowards and hypocrites! They can insult Jews and Christians all day long---but have a little insult dished their way? Somebody, lots of somebody's gonna die for it.
What a weak, pathetic theology that requires bombs, guns, swords and knives to defend its veracity!
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05-05-2011, 10:44 AM
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Re: No OBL Photo, But Abu Ghraib, Saddam Hussein O
I think there is political motivation behind every decision they make. You just never know what those motivations are.
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05-05-2011, 10:46 AM
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Re: No OBL Photo, But Abu Ghraib, Saddam Hussein O
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Originally Posted by ILG
I think there is political motivation behind every decision they make. You just never know what those motivations are.
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It is the mood swings that bother me. They do what they are in the mood to do and they change their minds frequently.
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05-05-2011, 12:35 PM
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Re: No OBL Photo, But Abu Ghraib, Saddam Hussein O
I feel that the photo should be placed on President Obama's desk and all the senators and congressmen be given the opportunity to walk around and see the photo. Then they can tell their constituents that they saw the picture and it was a dead Bin Laden. Other than that, I do not believe the photo should be given to the media, simply for the reasons that were given by the White House.
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05-05-2011, 12:43 PM
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Re: No OBL Photo, But Abu Ghraib, Saddam Hussein O
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Originally Posted by Seascapes
I feel that the photo should be placed on President Obama's desk and all the senators and congressmen be given the opportunity to walk around and see the photo. Then they can tell their constituents that they saw the picture and it was a dead Bin Laden. Other than that, I do not believe the photo should be given to the media, simply for the reasons that were given by the White House.
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Yea, that would work.
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Scott Brown: Osama Bin Laden Picture I Saw Wasn't 'Authentic'
Once it became clear that Brown had not seen the pictures in question, the senator found himself having to do damage control.
"The photo that I saw and that a lot of other people saw is not authentic," said Brown in a one-sentence statement, according to the Boston Globe.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_857770.html
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05-05-2011, 12:49 PM
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Re: No OBL Photo, But Abu Ghraib, Saddam Hussein O
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Originally Posted by Seascapes
I feel that the photo should be placed on President Obama's desk and all the senators and congressmen be given the opportunity to walk around and see the photo. Then they can tell their constituents that they saw the picture and it was a dead Bin Laden. Other than that, I do not believe the photo should be given to the media, simply for the reasons that were given by the White House.
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But its ok to show pictures of American soilders in coffins coming home for the last time, its ok to show video of people jumping from the World Trade Center, its ok to show video of Daniel Pearl getting his head cut off while screaming in painful terror, its ok to show American soilders hanging dead and burned from a bridge.
I'm sorry Seascapes, but your a liberal hypocrite who spews radical left wing dogma without any concern for having an intellectual conversation that can be supported by actual facts or even fair opinions.
That evaluation maybe a bannable offense but you know, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.......
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05-05-2011, 04:35 PM
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Re: No OBL Photo, But Abu Ghraib, Saddam Hussein O
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Originally Posted by scotty
But its ok to show pictures of American soilders in coffins coming home for the last time, its ok to show video of people jumping from the World Trade Center, its ok to show video of Daniel Pearl getting his head cut off while screaming in painful terror, its ok to show American soilders hanging dead and burned from a bridge.
I'm sorry Seascapes, but your a liberal hypocrite who spews radical left wing dogma without any concern for having an intellectual conversation that can be supported by actual facts or even fair opinions.
That evaluation maybe a bannable offense but you know, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.......
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scottie, pictures of closed coffins is not like a picture with only a half of a head and brains. Get real. The pictures taken by the public and given to the media can not be stopped by the President.
scottie calling me names is not necessary to post your view on political issues. You just might get a notice from Admin.
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05-05-2011, 07:26 PM
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Re: No OBL Photo, But Abu Ghraib, Saddam Hussein O
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05-06-2011, 10:51 AM
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Re: No OBL Photo, But Abu Ghraib, Saddam Hussein O
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Originally Posted by scotty
But its ok to show pictures of American soilders in coffins coming home for the last time, its ok to show video of people jumping from the World Trade Center, its ok to show video of Daniel Pearl getting his head cut off while screaming in painful terror, its ok to show American soilders hanging dead and burned from a bridge.
I'm sorry Seascapes, but your a liberal hypocrite who spews radical left wing dogma without any concern for having an intellectual conversation that can be supported by actual facts or even fair opinions.
That evaluation maybe a bannable offense but you know, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.......
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Here is the real issue.
When the pics from Abu Gharib were released, it is clearly documented that the unrest created was extremely detrimental to our troops and our mission.
Remember GWB's, "Mission Accomplished"?
He did not do that haphazzardly. We had made great progress in Iraq at that point. However, when Abu Gharib was made public, it motivated scores and scores of Arabs from around the region to flood into Iraq and drag out that war.
It really us best for the American Govt to not release the pics of the dead guy, no matter how badly I want to see him.
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Last edited by Jermyn Davidson; 05-06-2011 at 11:12 AM.
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05-06-2011, 10:56 AM
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Re: No OBL Photo, But Abu Ghraib, Saddam Hussein O
The pics of the WTC, Danny Pearl, the coffins of our heroes-- these are pictures that were taken by private citizens and private organizations.
Yes, the govt released pics of the WTC, but it was already being broadcasted live on television.
The release of pics from the WTC attacks did not trigger the deaths of U.S. militarymen and women.
The pics from Abu Gharib did.
The big picture is very, very clear.
Who wants the Taliban emboldened, dragging out that already costly, but necessary war?
Who wants to see Iraq return to the condition it was in before 2007?
If the American Govt released those pics, this is EXACLTY what would happen.
We need to see the big picture, not bin laden's corpse.
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