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Old 02-16-2011, 04:44 PM
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Survey About Doctrinal Beliefs

I've expressed some dismay at the heavy criticism here when all I've done is promote the basic Acts2:38 New Birth message. It's basics of belief in repentance, baptism in water in Jesus' name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost evidenced by speaking with other tongues.

So could I get an idea of what's here at AFF and just see what people believe by asking these questions?

1: Do you believe that water baptism must be done in the name of Jesus and that any other baptism is not a valid baptism?

2: Do you believe that the infilling of the Holy Ghost is evidenced only by speaking with other tongues?

3: Do you believe these things are absolutely necessary in order to be saved and ready for heaven?

4: Do you hold as a core value the basics of traditional pentecostal holiness which is: Men: full length pants, shirts with sleeves, short hair, Women: uncut hair, no makeup, no pants, shirts with sleeves?

5: Do you believe a trinitarian will go to heaven?
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Old 02-16-2011, 04:49 PM
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Dude at least one of AFFs heros doesnt even believe repentance is necessary. why would they believe you need to be baptized?
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:01 PM
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Dude at least one of AFFs heros doesnt even believe repentance is necessary. why would they believe you need to be baptized?
Who?
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:27 PM
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Dude at least one of AFFs heros doesnt even believe repentance is necessary. why would they believe you need to be baptized?


Seriously? What AFF Hero doesn't believe in repentance?
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Old 02-16-2011, 06:36 PM
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Re: Survey About Doctrinal Beliefs

I agree with the initial post's statements, except the one about women with uncut hair and no pants, and I cannot say who is not going to heaven since I fear God too much to be that sort of judge. My conviction for that is based upon the Book of Acts accounts of people ministering to others where no one was told they would go to hell if they disagreed. Of course people are going to hell, but I do not believe we can say who except for out and out sinners. Priscilla and Aquila did not tell Apollos he was going to hell, and neither did Paul tell the Ephesians they were going to hell. But I preach oneness and Acts 2:38 salvation and leave the hell part to God.

I also agree we should disagree without being mean.
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Old 02-17-2011, 11:00 AM
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Dude at least one of AFFs heros doesnt even believe repentance is necessary. why would they believe you need to be baptized?
Well, I don't know that I would call myself a HERO...

Seriously though, I think everyone here knows that I am a simply a fringe element.
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:04 PM
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I've expressed some dismay at the heavy criticism here when all I've done is promote the basic Acts2:38 New Birth message. It's basics of belief in repentance, baptism in water in Jesus' name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost evidenced by speaking with other tongues.

So could I get an idea of what's here at AFF and just see what people believe by asking these questions?

1: Do you believe that water baptism must be done in the name of Jesus and that any other baptism is not a valid baptism?
No. And while I could ask you to specify what you mean, I already know. So my answer is that baptism is not an act, where the correct words are spoken over us for salvation. The baptizee should have either before the baptism or during, called upon the name of the LORD.

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2: Do you believe that the infilling of the Holy Ghost is evidenced only by speaking with other tongues?
No.

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3: Do you believe these things are absolutely necessary in order to be saved and ready for heaven?
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4: Do you hold as a core value the basics of traditional pentecostal holiness which is: Men: full length pants, shirts with sleeves, short hair, Women: uncut hair, no makeup, no pants, shirts with sleeves?
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5: Do you believe a trinitarian will go to heaven?
Well... duh!
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:08 PM
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I've expressed some dismay at the heavy criticism here when all I've done is promote the basic Acts2:38 New Birth message. It's basics of belief in repentance, baptism in water in Jesus' name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost evidenced by speaking with other tongues.

So could I get an idea of what's here at AFF and just see what people believe by asking these questions?

1: Do you believe that water baptism must be done in the name of Jesus and that any other baptism is not a valid baptism?

2: Do you believe that the infilling of the Holy Ghost is evidenced only by speaking with other tongues?

3: Do you believe these things are absolutely necessary in order to be saved and ready for heaven?

4: Do you hold as a core value the basics of traditional pentecostal holiness which is: Men: full length pants, shirts with sleeves, short hair, Women: uncut hair, no makeup, no pants, shirts with sleeves?

5: Do you believe a trinitarian will go to heaven?
OPII, I think you're still sucking on a bottle.
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:26 PM
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OPII, I think you're still sucking on a bottle.


Thank you for not taking me seriously and using the occasion to throw yet another childish insult my way. If you don't like this or have a negative opinion about it, why not just skip it rather than feeling the need to belittle me?
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Old 02-16-2011, 06:22 PM
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Thank you for not taking me seriously and using the occasion to throw yet another childish insult my way. If you don't like this or have a negative opinion about it, why not just skip it rather than feeling the need to belittle me?
Come on, OPII, lighten up. You're trying to cram everybody into "Your Box", and the Christian Faith doesn't work like that. It never has, and never will. None of us have IT. We try, we debate, we fall, we fail, and the cycle continues, and you just have to laugh at what we're all doing down here.

I used to think like you do, but life has unveiled a host of experiences that reveal; Apostolics who think like you (and me in the past), you are not the "ONLY ONES!" Even thinking this is truly crazy. We are just humans, pathetic little humans who have a Book that no one can really agree on. But that’s OK. The Bible is an amazing Book, and what amazes me, even amidst all of the confusion and minimal understanding, lives are still transformed by loving Jesus Christ!!

I suggest you do a little "Stand Back". Stop looking at life through your little lens of Religion. What I mean is, climb a mountain and look at the city. The sight, sounds, and feelings are all different when we get that bird’s eye view. Look down upon Mankind’s effort to figure God out, and if you are honest, you will SEE that this has NEVER been easy, and it's really quite comical.

One thing that opened my eyes a few years ago was this; Jesus called those who thought they had God figured out, BLIND! Think about it!!
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