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12-07-2010, 04:15 PM
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JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
The laying on of hair
Someone wrote me about this new “doctrine.” Here are his words: “Brother Ensey, I am having a hard time understanding a new doctrine. I understand the teaching of laying on of hands, however, I do not understand the teaching of laying of female hair upon the sick. It seems strange and out of order.”
This is a new practice in some circles, not a new doctrine. Just because it is not mentioned in the Bible doesn’t necessarily mean it can’t or shouldn’t be done at all as an act of faith. However, to attach it to a passage like I Corinthians 11:10 and extrapolate such a theory from that verse would be wresting the Scriptures. Someone might say, “Well, I know a lady who laid her long hair on a sick person and they got better, so that must mean that Paul was trying to tell us that there is power in long hair to heal the sick.” That would be extreme eisegesis.
Surely everyone is aware that anecdotal testimony can be obtained to corroborate ANYTHING! Books could be filled with subjective testimonies that seem to confirm everything from capture by space aliens to having been to the fiery hell and back. When are we going to learn that we judge subjective experiences by the Word of truth, not the Word by someone’s experience and anecdotal testimony? I heard of a lady who was healed when she put her hands in a tub of water that had been labeled by an evangelist as “the pool of Bethesda.” Her simple faith was rewarded.
But don’t start bringing tubs of water into the church. It is unwise to build doctrines or theories on one-time miracles or experiences
http://jrenseyblog.wordpress.com/2010/12/
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12-07-2010, 04:25 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
Overall, kudos to Ensey for speaking out against this.
To say this is simply "wrestling with Scripture" is akin to playing pattycake from a typically hard hitter.
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Last edited by DAII; 12-07-2010 at 04:29 PM.
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12-07-2010, 06:19 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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Originally Posted by DAII
Overall, kudos to Ensey for speaking out against this.
To say this is simply "wrestling with Scripture" is akin to playing pattycake from a typically hard hitter.
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ahem... "wresting" the Scriptures...
Sort of the same, but it think it carries a bit more force and meaning of intentional distortion.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-08-2010, 11:38 AM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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Originally Posted by DAII
Overall, kudos to Ensey for speaking out against this.
To say this is simply "wrestling with Scripture" is akin to playing pattycake from a typically hard hitter.
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DA:
I don't believe "wresting" was a typo.
wrest
–verb (used with object)
1. to twist or turn; pull, jerk, or force by a violent twist.
2. to take away by force: to wrest a knife from a child.
3. to get by effort: to wrest a living from the soil.
4. to twist or turn from the proper course, application, use, meaning, or the like; wrench.
--http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wresting
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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12-08-2010, 11:48 AM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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DA:
I don't believe "wresting" was a typo.
wrest
–verb (used with object)
1. to twist or turn; pull, jerk, or force by a violent twist.
2. to take away by force: to wrest a knife from a child.
3. to get by effort: to wrest a living from the soil.
4. to twist or turn from the proper course, application, use, meaning, or the like; wrench.
--http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wresting
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Duly noted.
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12-07-2010, 04:29 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
Props to Ensey.
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12-07-2010, 05:30 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
I can picture it now. Ensey rushing to the publish the kudos from Daniel on his blog !!!!!!!
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12-07-2010, 08:43 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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I can picture it now. Ensey rushing to the publish the kudos from Daniel on his blog !!!!!!!
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He's going to make it on mine ....
He's officially published ....
www.Holymagichair.com
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Last edited by DAII; 12-07-2010 at 09:06 PM.
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12-07-2010, 09:26 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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Your site crashed! Must be some interest eh?
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-07-2010, 05:44 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
Does anyone actually know anyone that has done this?
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