Obama's SS: Step One

scotty · #1 02-08-2009, 10:25 AM

Details of this come out during the campaign and quickly disappeared. This will in essence make all local law enforcement fall under the same rules as the National Guard. Those rules are: National Guard is a local state run militia that can be activated in the event of an emergency by the federal government as directed by the federal government.

In other words, Obama will be able cry "wolf" and take authority over our local police. Sound familiar ? This mirrors the same system Hitler put in place as a prelude to the creation of the SS.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090208/...obama_security

SDG · #2 02-08-2009, 10:29 AM

Nothing in the article you posted about National Guard.

The accusations you implicate, IMO, are insulting to millions who lost their lives in the Holocaust ... we'll discuss why ... later.

scotty · #3 02-08-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Nothing in the article you posted about National Guard.

The accusations you implicate, IMO, are insulting to millions who lost their lives in the Holocaust ... we'll discuss why ... later.

huh ?

My post has nothing to do with the Jews or the Holocaust. Not making any comparisons to either. My comparison is Obama's directive he is about to implement to the directive Hitler implemented prior to institution of the SS.

My reference to the policies that govern the activation of the National Guard given above are based on personal experience.

jaxfam6 · #4 02-08-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Nothing in the article you posted about National Guard.

The accusations you implicate, IMO, are insulting to millions who lost their lives in the Holocaust ... we'll discuss why ... later.

you really do like to make mountains out of mole hills don't you.

SDG · #5 02-08-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by scotty

Details of this come out during the campaign and quickly disappeared. This will in essence make all local law enforcement fall under the same rules as the National Guard. Those rules are: National Guard is a local state run militia that can be activated in the event of an emergency by the federal government as directed by the federal government.

In other words, Obama will be able cry "wolf" and take authority over our local police. Sound familiar ? This mirrors the same system Hitler put in place as a prelude to the creation of the SS.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090208/...obama_security

How you are able to infer all of this from this one article shows your obvious bias and propensity for hysterics.

He won ... game over ... try again in 2012

Cindy · #6 02-08-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

How you are able to infer all of this from this one article shows your obvious bias and propensity for hysterics.

He won ... game over ... try again in 2012

Good grief, what are you 10 years old?

jaxfam6 · #7 02-08-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

Good grief, what are you 10 years old?

at least this morning he is.

it is no longer about rather he won or lost it is about does he have America's best interest at heart. From what he has done so far I am not sure. Looks to me like he is more interested in himself and how far he can go and what he can control, IMHO.

scotty · #8 02-08-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

How you are able to infer all of this from this one article shows your obvious bias and propensity for hysterics.

He won ... game over ... try again in 2012

Again, your trying to fish in a hole thats not even in the same lake.

This has nothing to do with lost elections or past discontent. I'm trying to be serious. And there are other articles out there that go into more detail, I am hoping someone may post them, lest I find them first.

Aquila · #9 02-08-2009, 11:51 AM

My wife's family is Jewish. One thing that a lot of non-Jewish people never notice is how often so many compare their political adversaries to "Hitler". Jews get tired of hearing it because people have compared Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Nixon, etc. to Hitler...and NONE of them come close to being as evil as Hitler. Now, to compare Obama to Hitler is to essentially downgrade Hitler's evil to that of an average American politician. That's offensive to some Jews, especially a sizable number of the Jewish community who voted for him.

Now, on another note, most Western countries around the World including Britain, Israel, Canada, Italy, and many, many, many more have a process whereby local law enforcement can be placed under the authority of the national government, especially in the event of a national emergency.

None of this is unexpected. I'm all for diligence and keeping an eye on this kind of thing...but this is par for the course in the post-9/11 world we live in.

I think we should be weary of those who cry wolf. Think about it... a lot of the same people who are crying wolf with Obama right now unconditionally supported the Bush Administration's Patriot Act and the preemptive invasion of Iraq which was based on highly questionable intelligence. If you ask me, that's far closer to being despot than anything we've seen to date.

Pressing-On · #10 02-08-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

My wife's family is Jewish. One thing that a lot of non-Jewish people never notice is how often so many compare their political adversaries to "Hitler". Jews get tired of hearing it because people have compared Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Nixon, etc. to Hitler...and NONE of them come close to being as evil as Hitler. Now, to compare Obama to Hitler is to essentially downgrade Hitler's evil to that of an average American politician. That's offensive to some Jews, especially a sizable number of the Jewish community who voted for him.

Now, on another note, most Western countries around the World including Britain, Israel, Canada, Italy, and many, many, many more have a process whereby local law enforcement can be placed under the authority of the national government, especially in the event of a national emergency.

None of this is unexpected. I'm all for diligence and keeping an eye on this kind of thing...but this is par for the course in the post-9/11 world we live in.

I think we should be weary of those who cry wolf. Think about it... a lot of the same people who are crying wolf with Obama right now unconditionally supported the Bush Administration's Patriot Act and the preemptive invasion of Iraq which was based on highly questionable intelligence. If you ask me, that's far closer to being despot than anything we've seen to date.

Not exactly a cry of "wolf", Aquila. It is a known fact that Obama was a founding member of the board of Public Allies which he started in 1992. It is a non-profit group and he plans/planned to use it as a model for a national service corps.

He calls the program, ""Universal Voluntary Public Service". The program promises to place young adults (18-30) in paid one-year "community leadership" positions with nonprofit or government agencies.

The contention is that we have military and local law enforcement, which makes this program suspect and a precursor of the ideology of Hitler's youth program.

I would also like to point out that 70% of it's recruits are "people of color".

Not a cry of "wolf" by any means.