Does Dan Seagraves Believe in the LIght Doctrine????

[Thad]

I have high respect for Bro Seagraves and If this Question offends anyone I am hoping and asking that the thread be deleted " If it offends your Brother".......
anyhow, I know that he use to have a site where people could ask him Bible Questions and there was some commotion about the fact that he eluded to what would be considered the Old " light doctrine".

Is it wrong to believe in the light doctrine? can you be considered a 3 stepper and believe in it ?
what exactly is it ? If my memory serves me right tonight, I thought it was where only those Baptized in Jesus Name will make it in the rapture? all others will stay through the wrath of God in the tribulation and then be the servant of those who were bapt. In JN ?
All these people will be those who walked in all they knew and were not given deeper revelation by God.

what scriptures do they use for this Doctrine? I'd be interested in reading up on it - thanks

[Thad]

Hello Hello Hello ????????????????????????

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Thad

Hello Hello Hello ????????????????????????

no clue....what is "the light" doctrine? And how many calories does it have?

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

no clue....what is "the light" doctrine? And how many calories does it have?

that's a good way of putting it LOL

I tried to explain what I knew of it

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Thad

that's a good way of putting it LOL

I tried to explain what I knew of it

Too bad he removed those question and answers...they were up for years even though they took the link off

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Too bad he removed those question and answers...they were up for years even though they took the link off

why i wonder

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Thad

I have high respect for Bro Seagraves and If this Question offends anyone I am hoping and asking that the thread be deleted " If it offends your Brother".......
anyhow, I know that he use to have a site where people could ask him Bible Questions and there was some commotion about the fact that he eluded to what would be considered the Old " light doctrine".

Is it wrong to believe in the light doctrine? can you be considered a 3 stepper and believe in it ?
what exactly is it ? If my memory serves me right tonight, I thought it was where only those Baptized in Jesus Name will make it in the rapture? all others will stay through the wrath of God in the tribulation and then be the servant of those who were bapt. In JN ?
All these people will be those who walked in all they knew and were not given deeper revelation by God.

what scriptures do they use for this Doctrine? I'd be interested in reading up on it - thanks

This is what he believes:

We are justified at the point of faith, everyone who is in the bride of Christ has to be baptized in Jesus Name.

That baptism unites us with Christ Romans 6; Col. 2, and that the normative experience of the New Birth in the NT is faith, repentance, baptism and receiving the Holy Spirit.

He does not call what he believes to be the light doctrine, but will discuss freely what C. Haney, GT Haywood and A. Urshan believed and in the least they validated as being legit. the experiences of true faith found outside our understanding.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by keith4him

This is what he believes:

We are justified at the point of faith, everyone who is in the bride of Christ has to be baptized in Jesus Name.

That baptism unites us with Christ Romans 6; Col. 2, and that the normative experience of the New Birth in the NT is faith, repentance, baptism and receiving the Holy Spirit.

He does not call what he believes to be the light doctrine, but will discuss freely what C. Haney, GT Haywood and A. Urshan believed and in the least they validated as being legit. the experiences of true faith found outside our understanding.

that's a little vauge keith but i understand

[rrford]

Originally Posted by keith4him

This is what he believes:

We are justified at the point of faith, everyone who is in the bride of Christ has to be baptized in Jesus Name.

That baptism unites us with Christ Romans 6; Col. 2, and that the normative experience of the New Birth in the NT is faith, repentance, baptism and receiving the Holy Spirit.

He does not call what he believes to be the light doctrine, but will discuss freely what C. Haney, GT Haywood and A. Urshan believed and in the least they validated as being legit. the experiences of true faith found outside our understanding.

Not sure how you mean that statement. Is one part of the bride prior to taking in His name in baptism? It would seem that the implication is that one becomes part of the bride at justification.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by rrford

Not sure how you mean that statement. Is one part of the bride prior to taking in His name in baptism? It would seem that the implication is that one becomes part of the bride at justification.

what i took away from that is, those who have received the HG are in the "Body" but not the Bride ???