I recently spoke to a young pastor (upc) at length about the future of the upc. This is a pastor i would consider fairly conservative. HIs father was and the church still looks old time for the most part.
in the conversation,the standard issue came up and to make a long story short, he told me that within 5-10 years, that pants rule would no longer be an issue. It would only be the old timers holding on to this teaching. Furthermore, he went on to say that he also believed that we are slowly going to have to let go of this rule. I almost swallowed my teeth!!!
He went on to say that most of the younger preachers are waiting for the old gaurd to move from power do they can change these things.
My Question is this, will this change the spirit of the church? I look at the AoG. most of the ones I know (with a few exceptions) have no semblence to Pentecost. I'm not talking about wild services, but they are just plain DEAD. even some of their members complain that something is missing.
however, I do concede that some of our churches are pretty dead yet have long dresses but for the most part, we are pretty lively compared to most, even the deadest ones amongst us.
Do you agree that this enevitable in the UPC??? ( changing the dress code) or not? and will it change the consecration of the church ?
I recently spoke to a young pastor (upc) at length about the future of the upc. This is a pastor i would consider fairly conservative. HIs father was and the church still looks old time for the most part.
in the conversation,the standard issue came up and to make a long story short, he told me that within 5-10 years, that pants rule would no longer be an issue. It would only be the old timers holding on to this teaching. Furthermore, he went on to say that he also believed that we are slowly going to have to let go of this rule. I almost swallowed my teeth!!!
He went on to say that most of the younger preachers are waiting for the old gaurd to move from power do they can change these things.
My Question is this, will this change the spirit of the church? I look at the AoG. most of the ones I know (with a few exceptions) have no semblence to Pentecost. I'm not talking about wild services, but they are just plain DEAD. even some of their members complain that something is missing.
however, I do concede that some of our churches are pretty dead yet have long dresses but for the most part, we are pretty lively compared to most, even the deadest ones amongst us.
Do you agree that this enevitable in the UPC??? ( changing the dress code) or not? and will it change the consecration of the church ?
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I do
And here in AR -- there are a lot of lively AoG churches.
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I believe that it will go and it is in the process now.
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If ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24
Mone me, amabo te, si erro
No real problem exists over the use of "The Name" in everthing else done in the Church. Why then should there exist great controversy over the use of the "The Name of the Godhead" in water baptism?
Kevin J. Conner The Name of God p. 92
If having a dress code is what keeps the church hopping, then we have a bigger problem than women wanting to wear pants.
The Catholic church used to have dress standards, but I don't read where they ever had 'happenin' services. They've always been dead, dull, and boring....LOL!
Those members that complain something is missing.....it's not skirts on the women, but lack of God in the church.
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I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
If having a dress code is what keeps the church hopping, then we have a bigger problem than women wanting to wear pants.
The Catholic church used to have dress standards, but I don't read where they ever had 'happenin' services. They've always been dead, dull, and boring....LOL!
Those members that complain something is missing.....it's not skirts on the women, but lack of God in the church.
HO, most American Catholics today rarely go to church except on Christmas, funerals & weddings.
Here in CA. the first generation mexican Catholics are still faithful and are very traditional. some even still wear viels. But the younger ones who have let go of their traditions are just like the rest of America.
HO, most American Catholics today rarely go to church except on Christmas, funerals & weddings.
Here in CA. the first generation mexican Catholics are still faithful and are very traditional. some even still wear viels. But the younger ones who have let go of their traditions are just like the rest of America.
StMark...what do you mean by the younger ones look like the rest of America? Are you talking about the women? They may cut their hair and wear some make-up (down here...not so heavy....very light), but they still wear skirts.
StMark...what do you mean by the younger ones look like the rest of America? Are you talking about the women? They may cut their hair and wear some make-up (down here...not so heavy....very light), but they still wear skirts.
I think that traditions often make more people connected to church life.
I concur that some traditions are more of a distraction then any good they do but not all.
I think that traditions often make more people connected to church life.I concur that some traditions are more of a distraction then any good they do but not all.
You nailed it on the head here. It's a sense of belonging.
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If having a dress code is what keeps the church hopping, then we have a bigger problem than women wanting to wear pants.
The Catholic church used to have dress standards, but I don't read where they ever had 'happenin' services. They've always been dead, dull, and boring....LOL!
Those members that complain something is missing.....it's not skirts on the women, but lack of God in the church.
Sister, when are you going to start preaching??? AMEN
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