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02-09-2008, 10:22 PM
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Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
Before you all "jump" me, hear me out.
I know that as Christians, we all usually vote Republican because of our values. We HAVE a Republican in office and homosexual marriage/rights is moving right along...abortions haven't stopped. So obviously putting a Republican in the office doesn't change those issues.
Why shouldn't I vote for Barak? He's a fresh voice, people are comparing him to JFK...I realisticly do not believe Huck's going to do anything...I don't know if I want McCain as President, nor do I think he'll win....
So we have two choices Hillary or Barak.........why shouldn't I vote for Barak????
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02-09-2008, 10:36 PM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
My opinion is it is best not to vote...but of course few think like I do...fewer yet have lived in countries such as I have lived in...I saw enough Muslims in the Philippines and there are lots of them in Brazil. Why would you vote as a christian for a man that does not believe the Bible to be God´s word?
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02-09-2008, 10:46 PM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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My opinion is it is best not to vote...but of course few think like I do...fewer yet have lived in countries such as I have lived in...I saw enough Muslims in the Philippines and there are lots of them in Brazil. Why would you vote as a christian for a man that does not believe the Bible to be God´s word?
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Sis, he's not muslim!!!! This is a false rumor that has been spread about him.
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02-11-2008, 08:21 PM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
Because he is a MUSLIM. I am mexican, just because I live in America that does not make me white.He is a MUSLIM. I will not vote for him. And I am not racist. I would not vote for him. America is asking for trouble by voting Obama as president.
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02-11-2008, 08:47 PM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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Originally Posted by chumina
Because he is a MUSLIM. I am mexican, just because I live in America that does not make me white.He is a MUSLIM. I will not vote for him. And I am not racist. I would not vote for him. America is asking for trouble by voting Obama as president.
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And this is fact because.............you read it on a website?
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02-11-2008, 09:33 PM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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Originally Posted by chumina
Because he is a MUSLIM. I am mexican, just because I live in America that does not make me white.He is a MUSLIM. I will not vote for him. And I am not racist. I would not vote for him. America is asking for trouble by voting Obama as president.
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Mexican is not a religion. Muslim is not a nationality or race. You live in America? Are you American or Mexican?
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02-09-2008, 10:49 PM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
My opinion is it is best not to vote...but of course few think like I do...fewer yet have lived in countries such as I have lived in...I saw enough Muslims in the Philippines and there are lots of them in Brazil. Why would you vote as a christian for a man that does not believe the Bible to be God´s word?
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Sis Alvear, with all do respect, Obama is a Christian and has attended a Christian church for years. Here is a picture of Obama being sworn in by Vice President Dick Cheney...on the Obama family Bible,
As Christians we are bound to hold to truth, not rumor, not prejudice (Not that you're prejudiced, but many hear his name and assume he's not a Christian). I'm just saying that it is of the utmost importance that we be honest about people.
Now, with regards to the election I see it this way. Obama and Hillary are Liberals and they are honest about being liberals. McCain has never been regarded by the Republican party as a true conservative and has often bragged about his moderate maverick politics. Now he's pretending to be a solid Conservative, and interestingly most conservatives are not supporting him. So the choice is between a person who is a liberal and honest about it or a conservative who is lying about being a conservative. I'm considering that it might be best to vote for the honest liberal, at least you know where they REALLY stand.
Just some of my thoughts.
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02-09-2008, 10:50 PM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall
Sis Alvear, with all do respect, Obama is a Christian and has attended a Christian church for years. Here is a picture of Obama being sworn in by Vice President Dick Cheney...on the Obama family Bible,
As Christians we are bound to hold to truth, not rumor, not prejudice (Not that you're prejudiced, but many hear his name and assume he's not a Christian). I'm just saying that it is of the utmost importance that we be honest about people.
Now, with regards to the election I see it this way. Obama and Hillary are Liberals and they are honest about being liberals. McCain has never been regarded by the Republican party as a true conservative and has often bragged about his moderate maverick politics. Now he's pretending to be a solid Conservative, and interestingly most conservatives are not supporting him. So the choice is between a person who is a liberal and honest about it or a conservative who is lying about being a conservative. I'm considering that it might be best to vote for the honest liberal, at least you know where they REALLY stand.
Just some of my thoughts.
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That is nothing but a farce and a front!!!!!
He did that to gain future votes is all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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02-09-2008, 10:51 PM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall
Sis Alvear, with all do respect, Obama is a Christian and has attended a Christian church for years. Here is a picture of Obama being sworn in by Vice President Dick Cheney...on the Obama family Bible,
As Christians we are bound to hold to truth, not rumor, not prejudice (Not that you're prejudiced, but many hear his name and assume he's not a Christian). I'm just saying that it is of the utmost importance that we be honest about people.
Now, with regards to the election I see it this way. Obama and Hillary are Liberals and they are honest about being liberals. McCain has never been regarded by the Republican party as a true conservative and has often bragged about his moderate maverick politics. Now he's pretending to be a solid Conservative, and interestingly most conservatives are not supporting him. So the choice is between a person who is a liberal and honest about it or a conservative who is lying about being a conservative. I'm considering that it might be best to vote for the honest liberal, at least you know where they REALLY stand.
Just some of my thoughts.
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good point
so which 'honest liberal' do we vote for?
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02-09-2008, 10:54 PM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
Some may vote for Hillary over Obama using this reason. I was told "better the devil you know than the devil you don't know" LOL
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