What comes of those who do not speak tongues?

[NewbieMisfits]

So....

I hate to ask, but being a newbie.....

This question stems from your, Are you an apostolic? thread Larry


So, in Apostolic church, what happens if someone is baptized & does not speak in tongues?

Is he booted? Looked down on? Shunned? Re-baptized till this happens? Sent to a Baptist church? <lol What typically happens if this does happen?

Does this happen at the baptism?


Does one get baptized & not show this evidence? < Does this happen? If so how often?

Do people fake this?

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Here's my personal background with speaking in tongues:
I was sent to a very small Apostolic school as a teen...
During my 2yrs there, 1 time, and only 1 time, did I see the pastors wife "fake" this from what I knew.... I could run a long story for the details, but she was speaking in tongues up front, but for the slightest second she looked out the corner of her eye followed by this look of disregard at another.

That's all I know.

So I thought to myself, if she's not real, then none of this is real.

Months later some questions came up accusing the paster of some things with a girl there (which might have been true but not surprising given the teens practiced & public promiscuity.

So then I thought to myself, if neither of these 2 are real, then for sure none of this is real.

The school closed down about then & that was the end of that....

So that's all I know, aside form scriptures I've been reading up on (Tnks Larry).

Please answer some of these questions PLease PLEASE

[NewbieMisfits]

I would like to add after reading that post that I'm NOT saying I do not Believe such evidence is not genuine.
Personally I have it in my uneducated mind that indeed some people (Apostles) can show this evidence, and others (non-Apostles) don't. Both can be saved, but the Apostles have it in them to preform Gods works to a degree less than that of Jesus's miracles, but much higher than others.

SO then I say to myself, well maybe Apostolics are indeed todays Apostles, but then if that's the case why couldn't today's (non-Apostles) still join the same church? For if a church was only full of miracle preforming Apostles, who else is there to help?

I look forward to my laugh years from now, reading this then & seeing my ignorance now.

[SwordSainT]

Im glad that you are trully seeking. Tongues is not just a gift of Apostles. Salvation is based on the Death, Burial and Resurrection of Jesus.

Death by dying to sins- this is called repentence. (Acts 2:38)
Burial: Being baptized in the name of Jesus (Acts 2:38, Acts 4:12, 1 Peter 3:21
Resurection: as a new creature by the infilling of the holy ghost (Acts 2:38, Acts 10:44-46, Acts 8:14-16)

Looking at those verses you can easily judge that the infilling of the Holy Ghost comes with that evidence of speaking in tongues. You can be baptized and have repented of your sins but still not have the infilling of the Holy Ghost as we see in ACTS chapter 8. They had received God but still had to have the laying of hands to receive the Holy Ghost.

So to answer the question simply, if you are baptized and have repented, you are on your way to step 3. Its not a bad thing, i was baptized years before i received the infilling of the Spirit.

[navygoat1998]

Plus don't forget that Apostolic's are not the only one who receive the Baptism in the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues. Pentecostals and Charismatics are also Baptized by Christ.

[seekerman]

Most people who speak in tongues aren't oneness pentecostal and are baptized in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Most people who speak in tongues aren't oneness pentecostal and are baptized in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost.

Get thee behind me Satan.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Most people who speak in tongues aren't oneness pentecostal and are baptized in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost.

Yes, do we honestly think those people are bound for hell because the "proper words" were not spoken over them when they went through the ritual of water baptism?

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Most people who speak in tongues aren't oneness pentecostal and are baptized in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost.

It's a fact.

[larrylyates]

Can it be faked? Yes, and often.

Can a true believer have sin in their lives and still manifest the Gifts or speak in tongues? Yup! Just read the litany of charges against the Corinthian Church. And yet, it says that they "came behind in no gift." I Co 1:6

Read through the letters to the Seven Churches in the Revelation. All had good points and bad points. No perfect Churches, then or now. No perfect people either. The Apostle Paul, role model for thousands; wrote 2/3 of the New Testament. Yet he considered himself to be "the chief of sinners." Yet he thanked God he spoke in tongues more than them all.

Tongues are not a shield against sin. They do however, serve to "edify" or build us up in faith, which helps us put to death the deeds of the flesh. (Jude 20; I Co 14:4).

Keep on askin' those questions!
Matthew 7:7
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

Luke 8:10
And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God...

It's a grand adventure!

[Farfel]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Plus don't forget that Apostolic's are not the only one who receive the Baptism in the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues. Pentecostals and Charismatics are also Baptized by Christ.

True dat. I've seen it myself.