Another ? about speaking in tongues.

[houston]

If tongues is not the initial evidence, why do people that do not know anything about the I.E. doctrine speak in tongues when they give their life to the Lord?

I have witnessed first time visitors cry out to God and BAM! They began to speak in tongues, with no coaching, and nobody praying with them.

My mother trembled in the presence of God. She spoke in tongues and fell forward to the ground. Describing her experience she said that she could see nothing but a bright light. I don't how she could see anything, her eyes were closed the whole time she was on the floor.

[Amanah]

I also don't understand why people want to do away with tongues as evidence, especially those who have experienced it first hand.

I received the HG as a child and spoke in tongues having never heard about it before.

I've seen 100s of people, maybe thousands, filled the same way.

[Pilgrum]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I also don't understand why people want to do away with tongues as evidence, especially those who have experienced it first hand.

I received the HG as a child and spoke in tongues having never heard about it before.

I've seen 100s of people, maybe thousands, filled the same way.

As always, the question is not whether or not people speak in tongues, but is speaking in tongues evidence of initial infilling of the Holy Ghost? Some will suggest that someone that speaks in tongues likely had the Spirit of Christ residing in their heart prior to that event. Likely at a time of sincere repentance and surrendering of ones life to Him.

[bbyrd009]

Wow-I'm jealous! not interested in including/excluding it as some kind of "evidence," but surely "jealousy" may have a large part in this...exclusion?

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Wow-I'm jealous! not interested in including/excluding it as some kind of "evidence," but surely "jealousy" may have a large part in this...exclusion?

not sure what part jealousy plays, maybe you would like to comment further?

[bbyrd009]

oh, sorry--that people might exclude it as a "proof," which concept I'm kind of uncomfortable with, anyway--I know the relevant verse(s), but they might exclude it, having not experienced it. I had one or two episodes, but they felt kind of forced, and just aren't what I hear described.

[J4Truth]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I also don't understand why people want to do away with tongues as evidence, especially those who have experienced it first hand.

I received the HG as a child and spoke in tongues having never heard about it before.

I've seen 100s of people, maybe thousands, filled the same way.

I think it is because receiving the HG is a part of salvation and if tongues is the evidence of, then all who have not the evidence have not the Spirit. And then when people look on others who they deem worthy of Heaven but have not spoke in tongues they strive to find a way to make place for them.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I also don't understand why people want to do away with tongues as evidence, especially those who have experienced it first hand.

I received the HG as a child and spoke in tongues having never heard about it before.

I've seen 100s of people, maybe thousands, filled the same way.

From a guy who used to be Oneness, Apostolics misinterpret the Bible when they preach a doctrine that is perceived as one cannot and will not be saved UNTIL they speak in tongues.

That doctrine of the 20 and 21st century Apostolic denomination is simply wrong, a distortion of Biblical truth.

It is very easy to manipulate people into a legalistic christianity, when their faith is based on a legalistic distortion of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

[houston]

My story is different. I sought the gift of tongues for almost 9 months and nothing happened. I thanked and asked God for the Holy Ghost for 3 days after being introduced to the initial evidence doctrine and BAM!

[bbyrd009]

Awesome. My experience was similar, but not being as committed as you, I guess, in the 2nd part of your post, it was more like pop than BAM.