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Old 11-11-2008, 10:24 AM
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I thought They were one???
I noticed something in scripture this morning that I have read many, many times and never noticed. Please explain Matt 12:32 if you can.

"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neihther in this world, neither in the world to come."


I thought the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are one. That being true how can you blaspheme the Son and be forgiven but not the Holy Ghost?

This seems confusing???
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:00 AM
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Re: I thought They were one???
It was brought up in a discussion in Deep Waters, a while back.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...read.php?t=310

Not sure a good answer was found, though!
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:25 AM
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Re: I thought They were one???
I dunno.
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:26 AM
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Maybe it's talking about the man verses the spirit of the man?????
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:03 PM
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Maybe it's talking about the man verses the spirit of the man?????
But are they not one?
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But are they not one?
one what?

Example...we speak of the Unites States being "One nation under God" when we say the United States is One we mean it is many states that together form one Nation.

One what? One person? One God? One thing? One WHO? One Nature? One Flesh? One Spirit? One manifestation?
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:28 PM
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But are they not one?

sure they are one

one means united, like a husband and wife are one
or like the people at the tower of Babel were one
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It was brought up in a discussion in Deep Waters, a while back.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...read.php?t=310

Not sure a good answer was found, though!
Thanks Timmy I had not seen that thread, but it did NOT answer my question. In fact, it seems YOU brought up the same question.
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Re: I thought They were one???
I am not a theologian, but I always thought in this case the Son of Man was speaking of the Man - Jesus - and the Holy Ghost was speaking of the Spirit of God. Therefore, those who brought charges against Jesus while He was on earth- forgiveness was available to them. But, blasphemy against the Holy Ghost - there is no forgiveness. Just my take on this scripture.
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I am not a theologian, but I always thought in this case the Son of Man was speaking of the Man - Jesus - and the Holy Ghost was speaking of the Spirit of God. Therefore, those who brought charges against Jesus while He was on earth- forgiveness was available to them. But, blasphemy against the Holy Ghost - there is no forgiveness. Just my take on this scripture.
So now we can separate them from being one?
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