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01-23-2008, 02:49 PM
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UPC found in Wikipedia under "Schisms & Splits"
I looked up the UPCI and found this on Schisms and Splits and low and behold I found this on Wikipedia:
The UPCI has experienced several splinters since its inception in 1945.
In 1955, a group of ministers led by Bishop C. B. Gillespie (Fairmont, WV), Bishop Ray Cornell (Cleveland, OH), and Bishop Carl Angle (Nashville, TN) rechartered the PAJC using the original charter.[citation needed]
1968 a number of ministers organized the Apostolic Ministerial Fellowship - AMF, lead by Robert Cavaness, Murray Burr and others, citing the UPCI as 'liberal'. Central issues were holiness and local church government. Detractors said that Murray Burr was disgruntled because he was not elected General Superintendent.
In 1986, Pastor L. H. Hardwick, a UPCI pastor in Nashville, Tennessee, and Jack Dehart of Texas broke away from what he called "legalists" (referring to the issue of dress code and standards), and formed Global Christian Ministries (now Global Network of Christian Ministries).[citation needed]
In 2001, Bishop Teklemarim Gezahagne and the more than 2 million members of the Apostolic Church of Ethiopia broke their 45 year alignment with the UPCI and joined up with the AWCF. The division was over Christology. Interesting accusations since most Pentecostals differ with the UPCI on Christology issues.
In January 2008 another split came to the UPC prompted by a 2007 resolution to allow advertising on television. The schism led by Jonny Godair formed the Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship.
Interesting..........
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01-23-2008, 02:53 PM
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Another reason I don't put any stock in Wikipedia's factual content.
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01-23-2008, 03:03 PM
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Another reason I don't put any stock in Wikipedia's factual content.
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why is that?
wonder how they find out that kind of information...maybe Brother fudge???
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01-23-2008, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by StMark;365635[B
]why is that?[/B]
wonder how they find out that kind of information...maybe Brother fudge???
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Because anyone can change the info placed in there.
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01-23-2008, 03:16 PM
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Because anyone can change the info placed in there.
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The core of the site is the public domain 1911 Edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica. The site is handy for undisputed facts like population figures and such.
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01-23-2008, 07:37 PM
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Another reason I don't put any stock in Wikipedia's factual content.
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Sounded like they got this one right. My grandpa recalled all those men and said it was true.
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01-23-2008, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by George
Sounded like they got this one right. My grandpa recalled all those men and said it was true.
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As I said above. They got their facts wrong...
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01-23-2008, 07:44 PM
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As I said above. They got their facts wrong...
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Okay... what facts in particular? The one quoted about the year 1955 seems to reflect events that I thought had happened in 1947. What else do you see?
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01-23-2008, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Okay... what facts in particular? The one quoted about the year 1955 seems to reflect events that I thought had happened in 1947. What else do you see?
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I looked up the UPCI and found this on Schisms and Splits and low and behold I found this on Wikipedia:
The UPCI has experienced several splinters since its inception in 1945.
In 1955, a group of ministers led by Bishop C. B. Gillespie (Fairmont, WV), Bishop Ray Cornell (Cleveland, OH), and Bishop Carl Angle (Nashville, TN) rechartered the PAJC using the original charter.[citation needed]
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I am not 100% certain on this issue, but I am of the strong impression that some of these men picked up the charter in the late 1940s.
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1968 a number of ministers organized the Apostolic Ministerial Fellowship - AMF, lead by Robert Cavaness, Murray Burr and others, citing the UPCI as 'liberal'. Central issues were holiness and local church government. Detractors said that Murray Burr was disgruntled because he was not elected General Superintendent.
In 1986, Pastor L. H. Hardwick, a UPCI pastor in Nashville, Tennessee, and Jack Dehart of Texas broke away from what he called "legalists" (referring to the issue of dress code and standards), and formed Global Christian Ministries (now Global Network of Christian Ministries).[citation needed]
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Pastor Hardwick was out of the upci long before Jack Dehart left. Jack Dehart did not leave until after the Affirmation Statement was adopted in 1992. Furthermore, he did not leave over the "holiness" or "legalist" issue. He debated against the resolution on the floor in Salt Lake City. He along with C.L. Dees were two of the strongest voices against the Affirmation Statement.
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In 2001, Bishop Teklemarim Gezahagne and the more than 2 million members of the Apostolic Church of Ethiopia broke their 45 year alignment with the UPCI and joined up with the AWCF. The division was over Christology. Interesting accusations since most Pentecostals differ with the UPCI on Christology issues.
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45 year alignment? Not hardly. That would have placed a date of fellowship back to 1962. In fact, I don't believe brother Wendel, who later committed suicide, went to Ethiopia until after then.
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In January 2008 another split came to the UPC prompted by a 2007 resolution to allow advertising on television. The schism led by Jonny Godair formed the Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship.
Interesting..........
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Can't say it is led by Johnny Godair alone. There seems to be bigger pushers and shakers leading the charge than just him.
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01-23-2008, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Apprehended
As I said above. They got their facts wrong...
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Whatever. There is always a certain amount of truth in every lie.
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