The Spirit of Abortion

[SDG]

Originally Posted by philjones

Whatever! I should have stuck to my original intent and stayed out of this foolishness!

I find your position just as despicable as those you say are coming from the right. I look at you and I see pot calling kettle black! you are so caught up in your own wisdom and enlightenment that you cannot see that you are guilty of the same thing you accuse others of! Except, of course, you are always right and the rest of us are Baby Killers and Murderers. Only you have the capacity to love or even know what that is!

Hey Phil ... Whatever!!!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

I've had both kinds of pastors. Having a 'slice and dice' pastor for 13 years did something to me......something I've been trying to get over for almost 20 years now.

According to Phil ... it doesn't happen ... at least intentionally.

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

HO, that is a fact that cannot be swept under the rug. There are many good pastors in the UPC, of that there can be no question. But there are also those, too many of those, who slice and dice saints like it is a blood sport in the name of control and boast that at least they have not "let down" on the doctrine. Mistreatment of God's sheep is never acceptable, especially in the name of religion.

MOW,

It happens in your all love world of liberalism too! Don't make it out to be and exclusive right of the UPC. Men who hold to nothing use other means than standards to control and brow beat folks. It is a common malady where ever men are found!

[Scott Hutchinson]

I love yall of good folks,I'll see yall later.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by philjones

MOW,

It happens in your all love world of liberalism too! Don't make it out to be and exclusive right of the UPC. Men who hold to nothing use other means than standards to control and brow beat folks. It is a common malady where ever men are found!

Two wrongs will never make a right.

[ReformedDave]

There is wrong on BOTH sides of the issue!!!! Like I've said before if it bugs someone so very much they should leave unless they can effect change. If you've already left, it's really not constructive to throw stones.

[Scott Hutchinson]

BTW the only control I want to see folks under is being under the control of The Holy Ghost,cause when He leads you you'll be led right.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

There is wrong on BOTH sides of the issue!!!! Like I've said before if it bugs someone so very much they should leave unless they can effect change. If you've already left, it's really not constructive to throw stones.

Tony Gwynn's the man, Dave ... saw him in SD ... in his last year ... in a game against the Mets .....

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

According to Phil ... it doesn't happen ... at least intentionally.

I apologize if you perceived that I felt that it doesn't happen. I know that there are abusers in every religious movement. I also know that it has nothing to do with con lib mod or even pentecostal. It has to do with men... period.

I still say that the men in the UPCI that, as a group, have been drawn and quartered here do not, as a group, intentionally kill the innocents or lead folks astray!

It appears that you have been sharing dirty needles and may have picked up spiritual hepatitis... your view is certainly jaundiced!

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Tony Gwynn's the man, Dave ... saw him in SD ... in his last year ... in a game against the Mets .....

My wife and I will be at his induction this year!!!!!! We've followed his whole career.