Scummy Pot - Page 53

TJJJ · #**521** 04-24-2014, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

Were it not for the powerful fear of hell some preaching wouldn't have had any power at all. I remember quite a lot of this type of preaching. Not in the church I grew up in, but youth camps and campmeetings, etc.

So true! Grew up and ran with this for a while! Fear is a powerful tool to manipulate people with.

Fear will make people tremble, thus giving the preacher a false sense of power!

Fear will make people part with their money!

But Paul wrote:

1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

When I began to see what Love of Jesus can do for my life then the fear issue began to abate and peace came to my soul.

I Love God now, but I am not afraid that He is going to strike me down at any moment!

Sister Alvear · #**522** 04-24-2014, 10:45 AM

I serve Him because I love Him... We fear Him with reverence however He is not standing over us with a whip...He is meek and lowly.

Ferd · #**523** 04-24-2014, 04:24 PM

There is a reason some things endure. This sermon has been with us a long time. It wasnt the only sermon ever preached that held some degree (quite a bit actually) of fear in it.

but there was something about that sermon that has stood the test of time.

I remember discussions about it back when we had a broader group here, that the things prophesied came to pass.

Fionn mac Cumh · #**524** 04-24-2014, 04:33 PM

Jesus was a liberal. Dont feel like typing it all out. If you want me to explain let me know.

Disciple4life · #**525** 04-24-2014, 04:37 PM

Hey I am not ripping on the guy. He may have done many wonderful things.

But the point where I read "Just sit there you fat thing and go to hell" my eyes literally felt like they were the size of saucers and came out of my body about 4 inches. I think my heart stopped for about thirty seconds and I was mumbling something while I reread the last sentence for about 5 minutes just to make sure I read it right.

crakjak · #**526** 04-24-2014, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ

So true! Grew up and ran with this for a while! Fear is a powerful tool to manipulate people with.

Fear will make people tremble, thus giving the preacher a false sense of power!

Fear will make people part with their money!

But Paul wrote:

1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

When I began to see what Love of Jesus can do for my life then the fear issue began to abate and peace came to my soul.

I Love God now, but I am not afraid that He is going to strike me down at any moment!

Ferd · #**527** 04-25-2014, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

Jesus was a liberal. Dont feel like typing it all out. If you want me to explain let me know.

my dear friend. you can type from now until the return of our sweet clean Lord Jesus Christ himself, but all you will do is type some mumbojumbomanmadehukum that has nothing whatsoever to do with what Jesus is.

Jesus was and is not bound by man made ideas that define our methods and proceedures. he was no more liberal than he was conservative. Jesus is what he has always been. That is the very definition of Righteous, Just and Holy.

attempting to suggest that he is somehow conformed to a man made concept we use to discribe each other is nonsense.

Jesus was radical to those who had changed the Eternal Truths of God into an institutionalized religion that they controled and benifited from

Jesus was reactionary to any who attempted to take his words and twist them into something other than what he meant.

And Jesus, told his closest followers that he spoke in such a way that only the pure in heart would understand.

Let please not pigionhole God.