Apostolic annointing

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by wire2john

I want everyone on the planet to be Oneness, but that said I think the admins here do a swell job and I especially appreciate that they allow conversations that get a little heated and uncomfortable to play out, rather than swooping in and shutting them down like they do on that "other" Oneness forum.

good point . . .

[consapente89]

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Now, if you want my personal response to his question, that is a different matter.

Do you want my personal response?


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Yes. Do you believe baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is an essential component of the New Birth experience?

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Now, if you want my personal response to his question, that is a different matter.

Do you want my personal response?

Yes. Do you believe that baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is an essential component of the New Birth?

[wire2john]

Originally Posted by Amanah

good point . . .

Thank you! Okay...maybe you didn't mean it was THAT good, lol!

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You do recall me asking you if you were a Trinitarian before this thread was started, right? I didn't arrive at you not being Oneness from this thread.

We can state how humble we all are, yet we come to this forum with our minds made up. At least that has been my observation since FCF was started.

Personally, I feel our Admins should line up with the Mission Statement of the Forum they represent. However, I don't put money into this forum, so it isn't my decision. I'm just voicing my opinion, which is the very purpose of this forum. On that note, I am not offended by you personally.

Yes, I recall. But it was my post in this thread that caused all the ruckus.

"Hold the phone, not Oneness?", and all that. Maybe you deduced something prior, but it wasn't until now that you decided to make an issue out of it.

You know, it's something I've written more than once here at AFF. So for me, it was no big reveal or thing to write it. Seems I am wrong...

[votivesoul]

[QUOTE=consapente89;1466864][QUOTE=votivesoul;1466805]


Now, if you want my personal response to his question, that is a different matter.

Do you want my personal response?

Yes. Do you believe baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is an essential component of the New Birth experience?

Yes. It is for the remission of sins, identifies a believer with the death of the Lord Jesus, and destroys the body of one's sins, as along as they have repented and confessed faith in the Lord Jesus beforehand. If they have not already received the Holy Spirit and spoken with other tongues, their immersion in the name of Jesus Christ promises them the gift of the Holy Spirit. Baptismal immersion in the name of Jesus Christ is the only way one ought to expect to rise up in the newness of life.

[Amanah]

Aaron, is your reservation about not calling yourself *Oneness* due to rejecting the idea that Jesus was just a *flesh robe* for the Spirit? I'm interested to know . . .

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I hear you Jason and I don't discount your experiences.
But, there have been mistakes/errors/sins made by people in all denominations.
I'm not going to throw the denomination out with the baptismal water though.

Much agreed.....

But with few exceptions, most other denominations recognize themselves as just that, a part of the church.

Whereas the UPC and the greater oneness movement believes themselves to be THE church and essentially all others damned.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Yes, I recall. But it was my post in this thread that caused all the ruckus.

I had previously asked you if you were Trinitarian. You simply posted, "No". So, I surmised your line of questioning was just to further the dialogue. Although, I still wondered at the intent of your questioning. Very much like how you approached Amanah. In the vein of a challenge. That is honestly what it felt like to me, and then I remembered you had done this before.

"Hold the phone, not Oneness?", and all that. Maybe you deduced something prior, but it wasn't until now that you decided to make an issue out of it.

Yes, because prior to this thread, you told me you weren't a Trinitarian and then, on this thread, you stated you weren't Oneness either. I thought, as an Administrator of a Oneness forum, your statement was rather -HOLD THE PHONE - kind of info. Right? Like - What in the cat hairs is going on?

You know, it's something I've written more than once here at AFF. So for me, it was no big reveal or thing to write it. Seems I am wrong...

I did not know you had written this information prior to today. Did you write that in the Politics area? That might be why I didn't see it. Lol! I don't have time to keep up with a lot of the threads, even though some days there aren't that many. We do go in cycles around here. We always have.

Now, when you say, as an Administrator, that the evidence for Oneness isn't strong enough in the Bible for you to embrace that truth - honestly - that is hard to get past. At that point I want to go

It doesn't mean I don't respect you as a person. It is just hard to place you in with Apostle Paul or anyone in the Upper Room. They knew what was going on and somehow you missed it. Just hard to wrap my brain around that.

You have written A LOT of very lengthy posts to not wonder how you missed the most fundamental point of God manifest in the flesh. You have put in A LOT of time writing in a lengthy and studious manner, coming across as understanding what you think very deeply about a lot of stuff. I guess that is why I was a bit taken aback by your confession that the Bible isn't clear and you are not oneness on a Oneness forum.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Jason B

Much agreed.....

But with few exceptions, most other denominations recognize themselves as just that, a part of the church.

Whereas the UPC and the greater oneness movement believes themselves to be THE church and essentially all others damned.

Your view is ill-informed.