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Old 09-08-2011, 09:54 AM
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Re: Do you have "The Revelation"?

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them that hear..
those who wait..
waiting is one of the most important things we can do..
patience in the face of the enemy; knowing that God is faithful, and greater than anything.
this is why songs are sometimes weapons of warfare for us..
while waiting our hearts must search for him..
He will come with the answer..and we will know it..and the answer is like water in a thirsty land..
OK. And this system is infallible. Cool.
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Old 09-08-2011, 10:02 AM
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And some of us were taught it from birth so there was no revelation or study. It's all we've ever known.
I remember thinking as a preteen or early teen, "I don't understand about
the Holy Ghost, but I believe that the Holy Ghost is real. I don't understand
it, but I believe I will one day have it. I saw the "witness" in my parents and
others lives that had received the Spirit. It caused me to desire it for myself
someday. That day came when I was 18 yrs old. I had just "tasted" enough
of the "world" to know that I would never be happy "out there". I still know I
could never be happy out of fellowship with my GOD!

I didn't immediately understand all about the "revelation" of the Mighty God
in Christ" etc., but it has been a continual learning and understanding as I
have matured in the natural and in the spiritual. My late father had a personal
library and study in his home. He had a little motto hanging behind his desk
that read, "There's a lot we all could learn if we were not already convinced
we knew it all". As long as I live, I want to be able to learn. But not like those
that Paul spoke of as "ever learning, but never able to come to the knowledge
of the truth".

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Old 09-08-2011, 08:22 PM
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Explain further?

Even the Bible acknowledges the existence of many gods, but demands worship and service be reserved for God alone.
Of these many gods that the Bible acknowledges, none of them are real. None can speak, walk or see. But most Oneness people believe in a God of light and a God of darkness... again, I repeat, this is not Monotheism.
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Re: Do you have "The Revelation"?

Phoenix,

Revelationist doesn't believe in a literal Satan. Those that do, believe in 2 gods, per his preterist hermeneutic.
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Old 09-08-2011, 10:17 PM
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Of these many gods that the Bible acknowledges, none of them are real. None can speak, walk or see. But most Oneness people believe in a God of light and a God of darkness... again, I repeat, this is not Monotheism.

Who have you been hanging out with? I don't know any oneness people that believe that there is a "God of darkness". Sounds like something from a low budget barbarian movie.

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Old 09-08-2011, 10:41 PM
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Re: Do you have "The Revelation"?

Oneness is not restricted to revelation alone as though study and bible reading cannot supply it. If that was the case, I would not believe it.
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:48 AM
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Of these many gods that the Bible acknowledges, none of them are real. None can speak, walk or see. But most Oneness people believe in a God of light and a God of darkness... again, I repeat, this is not Monotheism.
This is a belief I haven't seen before. Do you have links where I could read more? Or books. I'll read books too.
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Old 09-09-2011, 06:12 AM
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This is a belief I haven't seen before. Do you have links where I could read more? Or books. I'll read books too.
I've only found one book out there after I seen it. Got some study notes from another guy. The best place to start looking at it though is in Revelation.

Rev 9:20
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
KJV

It's clear that devils are listed with all the other gods that can not see, hear, or walk.

The next place is..
Matt 16:23
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
KJV

Satan simply means advisary. Peter was the advisary at that time because he had let the desires of the flesh take over.

What about Lucifer? Lucifer is only mentioned once in the Bible. Isn't that odd?

Isa 14:12
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
KJV

We find the chapter as a whole is to King Neberknezer. When right in the middle of the chapter there's about three verses on Lucifer. Just out of the blue... unless you remember the way Jesus talked to Peter. Neberknezer was told that he too had become the advisary of God. King, you old devil you, your going to be cast down and fall. And he did.
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The heresy hunters are still with us. Only now, instead of stakes, they use their books and radio programs to destroy those they consider heretics.... I'm concerned that heresy hunting may be turning into leukemia because some cultwatchers seem more intent on destroying parts of the body than healing the body....

Come see us on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/Revelationist1948
http://www.sermon.net/sermons-Biblic...rch-14145.html
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Re: Do you have "The Revelation"?

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I've only found one book out there after I seen it. Got some study notes from another guy. The best place to start looking at it though is in Revelation.

Rev 9:20
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
KJV

It's clear that devils are listed with all the other gods that can not see, hear, or walk.

The next place is..
Matt 16:23
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
KJV

Satan simply means advisary. Peter was the advisary at that time because he had let the desires of the flesh take over.

What about Lucifer? Lucifer is only mentioned once in the Bible. Isn't that odd?

Isa 14:12
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
KJV

We find the chapter as a whole is to King Neberknezer. When right in the middle of the chapter there's about three verses on Lucifer. Just out of the blue... unless you remember the way Jesus talked to Peter. Neberknezer was told that he too had become the advisary of God. King, you old devil you, your going to be cast down and fall. And he did.
Jerry, this is one reason preterism is whacked.

Get out before it is too late.
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Jerry, this is one reason preterism is whacked.

Get out before it is too late.
Preterism has nothing to do with whether or Satan is a an actual being. This is just an example of bro. Moon's personal beliefs and not preterism.
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