Classic John Eckstat

[Michael The Disciple]

This Brother was in my opinion one of the best on the Oneness teaching. I think he died in the mid 70's. His son Nathan is a member of the AFF.

Some Trinitarian Absurdities

Some absurb conclusions are arrived at if God the Father, the Lord Jesus Christ, and God the Holy Ghost are different persons. Let us examine some of them.

If there are three different persons, then there are also three Fathers, for all three manifestations are referred to as Father.
God is the Father of Jesus, and yet Matthew declares that the Holy Ghost is the Father. "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as His mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost." (Matthew 1:18)

Luke declares that the Holy Ghost is also the Father: "The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing that shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God" (Luke 1:35).

If the doctrine of the Trinity is true, then Jesus Christ has two fathers. For God the Father is one of His fathers and God the Holy Ghost is the other. However if this is not confusing enough, Jesus is also called the Father. Therefore, in the doctrine of the Trinity we have not one Father but rather three Fathers.

The following passages prove that Jesus is the Father.
Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God,The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

Revelation 21:6-7 (Jesus is the Alpha and Omega): "He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I (Jesus) will be his God, and he shall be
my son. If we are sons of Jesus, then he must be our Father.

The Disciples saw the Father when they saw Jesus. In John 14:7 Jesus declares that they have seen and also known the Father. I ask you, dear reader " Whom had they seen?" The only visible image of God is Jesus (Colossians 1:15; Heb. 1:3). They could not see the Holy Ghost,for the Spirit is invisible. If the Father was in heaven, and not in Jesus, then they must yet see another. And so Philip responds with this request, "Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?" Let us stop here to consider what has been said. Philip, did you ask who the Son was? Did you ask who Jesus was?
No, Philip, you asked who God the Father was, didn't you? If Jesus was the eternal Son, and not the everlasting Father, this was a golden opportunity for Jesus to tell them He was only the Son of this Father, But Jesus continues, "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father."

According to the Bible, if the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three persons, there is not one Father but three Fathers. Jesus is our Father, and God the Father and God the Holy Ghost are his Fathers, therefore God the Father must be our Grandfather.

The Bible says there is One! One! One God the Father!

1 Cor. 8:5,6 says. "For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many). But to us there is but one God, the Father." There is one God; who is he? He is the Father. Again Jesus warns to call only one person our Father, and that is God in heaven. If Jesus is not God the Father, then it is an abomination to call him Father.

We quote Matthew 23:9 " And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Only one is your Father, not three, Only one is to be called Father (God the Father).

Isaiah, you must have been wrong; you called Jesus the Father (Isa. 9:6) . For only God the Father is to be called the Father. No, Isaiah was not wrong, for Jesus the everlasting Father is God the Father. He is both God and man.