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Old 07-14-2014, 08:00 PM
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Gone Charismatic Question

I have a question regarding some of the UPC pastors who have "gone charismatic" and left the mother ship.

In particular I am interested in finding out if there are any major pastors / churches in Atlanta or anywhere in Georgia that fit this description.

I know of major pastors in Austin, Houston, and Dallas Texas who have left the org. over the last few years but never hear anything about Atlanta which is another major metro area in the Bible Belt so I am interested.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Old 07-14-2014, 08:12 PM
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I have a question regarding some of the UPC pastors who have "gone charismatic" and left the mother ship.

In particular I am interested in finding out if there are any major pastors / churches in Atlanta or anywhere in Georgia that fit this description.

I know of major pastors in Austin, Houston, and Dallas Texas who have left the org. over the last few years but never hear anything about Atlanta which is another major metro area in the Bible Belt so I am interested.
Henry Jones did years ago. He was in the AMF.
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Old 07-14-2014, 08:45 PM
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Henry Jones did years ago. He was in the AMF.
Wow! That is a big swing. Does he still pastor and if so what is the church and what area of Atlanta?
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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Old 07-14-2014, 08:56 PM
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I think I found him. Is this the man and church you are talking about?

http://www.cothfayette.org/
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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If that's him. he sure didn't age very well. Looks nothing like the guy.
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I think I found him. Is this the man and church you are talking about?

http://www.cothfayette.org/
Sadly that is him. His BIL pastors in Pensacola Elder B. W. Adams. This happened in the late 70's or early 80's. This was Kenneth Morgan's church before he went to Laurel, Ms. Henry took it after H. B. Morgan who was pastor died. The church split as a result of this the other church is in Morrow, Ga.
Also my wife's cousin Mark Abernathy in Snellville has done the same. I think it is called Connectpoint or something goofy like that?
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Sadly that is him. His BIL pastors in Pensacola Elder B. W. Adams. This happened in the late 70's or early 80's. This was Kenneth Morgan's church before he went to Laurel, Ms. Henry took it after H. B. Morgan who was pastor died. The church split as a result of this the other church is in Morrow, Ga.
Also my wife's cousin Mark Abernathy in Snellville has done the same. I think it is called Connectpoint or something goofy like that?
I have heard the name Mark Abernathy but don't know anything about him. At the Jone's church website I did notice that her earrings seem bigger than most I remember at AMF meetings!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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I have heard the name Mark Abernathy but don't know anything about him. At the Jone's church website I did notice that her earrings seem bigger than most I remember at AMF meetings!
These folks are really liberated. Singing free at last.
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Sadly that is him. His BIL pastors in Pensacola Elder B. W. Adams. This happened in the late 70's or early 80's. This was Kenneth Morgan's church before he went to Laurel, Ms. Henry took it after H. B. Morgan who was pastor died. The church split as a result of this the other church is in Morrow, Ga.
Also my wife's cousin Mark Abernathy in Snellville has done the same. I think it is called Connectpoint or something goofy like that?
So that's really Jones? WOW! Actually Duncan (or something like that, he was an evangelist from Indiana) took the church from the Elder Morgan and Kenneth split the church and brought Jones in from MS. to take the split. What a mess.
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So that's really Jones? WOW! Actually Duncan (or something like that, he was an evangelist from Indiana) took the church from the Elder Morgan and Kenneth split the church and brought Jones in from MS. to take the split. What a mess.
Lloyd Dunnigan has the other church. Your recollection is correct. Thanks. But it all happened in very close proximity.
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