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UPC and Ecumenical movement
Does anyone know if the UPC has taken a formal position on the Ecumenical movement?
I heard a rumor they have endorsed the movement.
Last edited by U376977; 08-13-2008 at 11:46 AM.
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08-13-2008, 10:48 AM
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Re: UPC and Ecumenicle movement
Is a ecumenicle like a hang-nail?
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08-13-2008, 10:50 AM
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Re: UPC and Ecumenicle movement
Check your spelling!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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Re: UPC and Ecumenicle movement
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I have my first post. I took my spelling from the following book title but I assume there are variations in spelling.
A History Of The Ecumenicle Movement 1517 - 1948. (Paperback)
by Ruth. Rouse (Author)
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08-13-2008, 11:17 AM
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Re: UPC and Ecumenicle movement
They have a position paper on "The UPC and the Evangelicals" by Hall I think.
As far as Ecumenical - that is open to definition. My thought is we need to be a whole lot more ecumenical than we have been or are now. It is not a bad word by the way, and it does not suppose there are no limits to what we define as the body of Christ.
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Re: UPC and Ecumenicle movement
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They have a position paper on "The UPC and the Evangelicals" by Hall I think.
As far as Ecumenical - that is open to definition. My thought is we need to be a whole lot more ecumenical than we have been or are now. It is not a bad word by the way, and it does not suppose there are no limits to what we define as the body of Christ.
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I'd have to look when I get home- but it seems to me that there was something said about the same time that the UPC denounced the RSV Bible.
U376977 cracks me up. Hang in there, guy! You're sure to find a real compromise that you can denounce the UPC for having made.
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08-13-2008, 11:58 AM
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Re: UPC and Ecumenicle movement
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I'd have to look when I get home- but it seems to me that there was something said about the same time that the UPC denounced the RSV Bible.
U376977 cracks me up. Hang in there, guy! You're sure to find a real compromise that you can denounce the UPC for having made.
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You are completly off base and do not even know anything about me so why assume I am trying to "denounce" or such sort. I really do not understand people who live in a realm of controversy. That is not me.
Just to clarify, --though I really feel I should not have to. I heard a rumor UPC endorsed the movement. The person who told believed this was using it as a negative to denounce the UPC.
I DO NOT KNOW. Thus an honest question for the group here who would know much more than I. There are life long UPCers on this forum.
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Re: UPC and Ecumenicle movement
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You are completly off base and do not even know anything about me so why assume I am trying to "denounce" or such sort. I really do not understand people who live in a realm of controversy. That is not me.
Just to clarify, --though I really feel I should not have to. I heard a rumor UPC endorsed the movement. The person who told believed this was using it as a negative to denounce the UPC.
I DO NOT KNOW. Thus an honest question for the group here who would know much more than I. There are life long UPCers on this forum.
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Then my post was for your friend. Take a deep breathe, Bro.
For those who have been around for a while, your friend's canard stands out as an obvious bit of bait that the angry "No Compromise!" crowd will try and chum the waters with. Perhaps this is what you intended but now have played the passive/aggressive card - which is another tactic of the angry "No Compromise!" crowd. Or it could be that this is the first time you've ever heard of the UPC and that you are asking a sincere question.
For my part... well, you seem to know your way around a little too well to be a neophyte.
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Re: UPC and Ecumenicle movement
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Then my post was for your friend. Take a deep breathe, Bro.
For those who have been around for a while, your friend's canard stands out as an obvious bit of bait that the angry "No Compromise!" crowd will try and chum the waters with. Perhaps this is what you intended but now have played the passive/aggressive card - which is another tactic of the angry "No Compromise!" crowd. Or it could be that this is the first time you've ever heard of the UPC and that you are asking a sincere question.
For my part... well, you seem to know your way around a little too well to be a neophyte.
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Bingo.
How could we dare be ecumenical or even civil with those who worship THREE GODS!!!!! 
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08-13-2008, 12:12 PM
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Re: UPC and Ecumenical movement
I couldn't bear to look at ecumenical so badly misspelled any longer and took the liberty of correcting the spelling on this threads title. UBoat, I hope that is ok with you.
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Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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