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Old 09-12-2011, 06:59 AM
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For those of you that have the whole truth

For those of you that think you have the whole truth

I am putting this out as many of you have read my post now I have even had many say things like "this is a apostolic forum why are there those that are not apostolic here". I would like to explain a few things. I was raised UPCI, held many postions within the local churches within my state. Having carried General license not going on to Ordination only because I did not see the need while, time and study requirements were fulfilled.

I began a personal study of the things that many call standards of holiness. The reason for this was one of my saints came to me with concerns that they had found while studing certain points within our doctrine of standard. This persons final words were "the church teaches that this is bible but I have found it is not true, and I feel lied to". This caused me to question everything concerning this area of doctine. Would that others would do the same.

Within the first year I found what any person would find if they open thier heart to the spirit of God instead of being preached as gospel just because the person sets themselves up as the man of God and tell us that if we don't follow what he preaches we are in rebelion. See I was the pastor so I could not be in rebelion in questioning these things I myself preached.

What I found was that what so many of us take as the unadulterated word of God preached from the pulpit is in fact mans traditions based not on sound understanding but rather the twisting and pulling of passages out of context to preach what we see as sin.

Now I say all of this to say, to those that wonder why those of us like me are aloud to stay on this site. I thank God for brotheren like Praxxes that keep us here as this is a life line for at least me. You see while I may come accross as a know it all and that I am right and you are wrong, the bottom line is I cherish the discutions from other points of view as they help keep me on the right path and not off in truly false doctrine. (even though some think I am)

James tell us to "contend for the faith", and Paul tells us to "seek out our own salvation" and "study to show yourself approved" I have always felt deep sorrow when the UPCI went through splits over such things as differance of opinion of things that to me seem of such little consequence as tv, women wearing pants, cutting thier hair, whether one is saved at repentance, or after all 4 steps are complete.

You see we all need each other, as Paul say we are to be subject one to another, when we have these splits we are taking ourselve out of the natural order God set forth of checks and balances. Those liberals in the faith need the concervitive as much as the concervitive need the liberals. It keeps us balanced, or else we fall into cultism. There must always be differances of opinion else there would be no growth spiritualy. There is always something new to understand in the kingdom of God.

As for me this site is a testing of those deeper things I feel I have learned from God. Many times the arguments directed at me have caused me to look again at those things and restudy. Trust me when I say this any time some one quotes a passage in debate to me I relook at the passage again regardless of how many times in the past I have read and studied them. I just hope others are doing the same thing when I post.

I know we could all learn from a deeper study of Romans 14.
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