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Originally Posted by Esaias

Brother Blume asked:

We can see this. Here again:

Romans 8:2 KJV
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

The law of the Spirit freed Paul from what? The law of sin (Sabbath breaking included) and death (penalty for breaking God's commandments). The Holy Ghost will set you free from your Sabbath breaking, brother.

Sabbath-breaking is not an issue, as I said, and you keep overlooking, because it's fulfilled in the body that cast those shadows. It does not matter if that's the conclusion you arrive at, because it's not my stance at all.

Romans 8:3-4 KJV
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: [4] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Jesus died so we could STOP SINNING. The law (whether you understand that mean the old covenant, or the commands of God themselves) cannot cause you you to fulfill righteousness. It cannot produce obedience. It can only show us what obedience looks like, what disobedience looks like, and provide penalties for disobedience. It cannot make anyone love God and their neighbor. But Jesus can, through the power of the cross. His death works in us to become NEW people who lovingly obey our Father.

The righteousness of the law is not engaging in the ceremonies of the law. Ceremonies, all of them, under law were shadows, from the passover through to Atonement and the feasts, to circumcision, to visiting natural Jerusalem, and keeping sabbath years for farmlands and gardens. Those ceremonies all were pictures of spiritual counterparts that are involved with a spiritual relationship with Christ.

That includes the 4th commandment just as surely as it does the other ten.

Nope. Not when sabbath day was fulfilled as the body of Christ, speaking of all of the rest that he offers in his priesthood.

Romans 8:5-8 KJV
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. [6] For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. [7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. [8] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Those who are carnally minded, who walk according to the flesh, who mind the things of the flesh, are those who will not submit to the law of God. They are at odds with God, at odds with His commandments, His ways, His revealed will. They will not submit to His law, they can't. Because they are still bound by sin:

This is where you miss what walking after the flesh means and how it includes serving God in the oldness of the letter where Paul describes one willing to do the Law, and finding he could not do it. Minding the things of the "flesh" is related to indulgence in "carnal" ordinances as well. Walking after the flesh is serving in oldness of the letter. It is doing and experiencing as a result that which Paul described in Romans 7:15-24. And the answer is in verse 25 through Romans 8:1, when Paul wrote that the Spirit of Life in Jesus will not see us die.

Sorry, but Acts 15:20 cannot be added to!

Romans 6:5-7 KJV
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: [6] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him , that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. [7] For he that is dead is freed from sin.

If you have been baptised into Christ's death, then by faith you have been freed from transgressing His commandments (sin is transgression of the law). We must reckon ourselves DEAD TO SIN, including Sabbath breaking:

And refusal to enter the true sabbath Jesus is now what sabbath-breaking means in the new covenant.

Romans 6:11 KJV
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Dead to sin doesn't mean free to continue sinning:

Romans 6:12-18 KJV
Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. [13] Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. [14] For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. [15] What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. [16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? [17] But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. [18] Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

And we keep sabbath by resting in Christ's rest, the new covenant body of what the sabbath foreshadowed. You're not dealing with someone who says we violate sabbath, brother. You think you are by the repeated error of claiming I advocate sabbath-violation. You're dealing with someoen who says fulfill the shadow of the sabbath!