You Cannot Know Either Jesus or The Father.
 

Part of Professional Babbling is to make people think the Professional Church Babbler "knows Jesus and God." And, to sensationalize their weekly performances, the "Pentecostal" Babblers like to come up with "revelations from God." Then, they tell their pewsitters they too can have "revelations from God" if they seek anointing, have hands laid on their heads, fall over backwards, are "prayed over," and maybe "position themselves before The Lord."

But, if these so called "revelations from God" can be written down and looked at, it always turns out they contain no new information. At best, they only are what Scripture already says about Jesus and God. There is in them no revelation. Just restatement of what can be easily read. And, Scripture only talks ABOUT God and Jesus. Therefore, humans can only know some information ABOUT God and Christ. They cannot actually know them, not even through"revelation."

Now up will jump Precious Hearts with the Scriptures from Saul and John, which speak about "knowing God." Because Saul and John stated that is it then automatic that you than also will "know God" because those verses exist? If so, then prove you know God with strong evidence. Quoting Saul and John proves nothing. Lol.

Large evidence for this is in Scripture, that Jesus Christ and The Father cannot actually be known. If they could have been known by The Apostles and contemporaries of Christ, then:

1.) John would not have written "The Revelation of Jesus Christ," because Jesus Christ would have already bern revealed. Lol. This is a new thought for any smooth talking Pulpit Babbler.

2.) There would have been seamless unity within The Apostles and with Saul, but there was not.

3.) People today would never need to "seek the face of God," but they do. White Knuckled Babblers love to "seek the face of God," while trying to say they already "know God."

4.) There would be universal agreement upon all Doctrines today if those who claimed to "know God" actually did. Rather, no Doctrine exists which is not broadly disputed, with endless factions on all points.

5.) No Babbler today who claims to "know Jesus or God" can explain much of Scripture. Their teachings just gloss over the face of the Text. Ezekiel, for instance, has no explanation which serves Christendom. Revelation certainly has none. Nobody can say if The Sermon on the Mount with Jesus' Commands is instructional or just informational.

6.) If anyone today knew God or Jesus, they would be able to implement John 14:12 in their own life. But nobody can.

7.) If anyone today knew God or Jesus they would be able to administrate complex human geopolitics and socioeconomics, as did Joseph in Godless Egypt and Daniel in Pagan Persia. But, no such person exists.

8.) If anyone knew God or Jesus, they would be able to unite all denominationations, and produce one superior rendering of Scripture. But, nobody can.

9.) If anyone knew God or Jesus, they would be able to remember and obey all of Jesus' Commands as Jesus stated His "friends" do. But nobody can.

10.) If anybody knew God or Jesus they would have clear and authoritative axiomatic answers for the questions in this Forum over which the arrogant posters can only stumble around.

Lol.

Re: You Cannot Know Either Jesus or The Father.
 

i gotta say that you are changing my perception of OPs--that you are still here demonstrates that they are long-suffering to a fault! You've been here like a week now, right? Gotta be some kind of record for you?

Re: You Cannot Know Either Jesus or The Father.
 

Must have a lot of free time!

Re: You Cannot Know Either Jesus or The Father.
 

Hey Actually, posting in here is so simple, I can easily do it between committments. There is no effort on my part to come up with what I do, because all of the "special" people in here are actually quite predictable.

What you read from me is the result and gift from God after years of watching Professional Church Talkers, and years of asking The Lord what those Babblers are actually doing. So far, I have only scratched the surface of the truth about Christian Church Ministry and its weak nonsense. Pentecostal Babbling is just one thing I am anointed to address. Lol.

Thanks for asking, Carl. I am sure you are a precious and naive heart, just like the Little Children Jesus wants to have in Heaven.

Re: You Cannot Know Either Jesus or The Father.
 

Which proves we know Him:thumbsup

Re: You Cannot Know Either Jesus or The Father.
 

Why don't you do us a favor and teach us babblers the truth that God has given you.

you like to attack, but do you have anything to teach?

by the way who gave you your supposed anointing?

please do tell us, we are waiting to hear your mighty wisdom.

We can certainly know the Father and Son.


John 10: 14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

1 John 2:13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.

Re: You Cannot Know Either Jesus or The Father.
 

Well, i think it depends upon how you define "know." There is Scripture that tells us plainly that you cannot know (at least) the Father, but only know of Him, and be known by Him. So we know God as in "know He exists."

sorry, i can't quickly find the passage, but it is Pauline...Corinthians, possibly?

Re: You Cannot Know Either Jesus or The Father.
 

Paul said no one comes to the Father but by the Spirit. But I don't know of any verse saying no one can know Him. John said the little children knew the Father.

Re: You Cannot Know Either Jesus or The Father.
 

His time here is up... guess the admin decided he crossed a line of no return... lol