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Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 08:16 AM
Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Post any scripture, why you believe, Jesus the man, is God.
And why you believe, that scripture means to you that
Jesus the man is God.

BrotherEastman 04-14-2014 08:59 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

And the Word (which was God) was MADE FLESH. See John 1 ;)

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 09:08 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1308242)
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

And the Word (which was God) was MADE FLESH. See John 1 ;)
Why do you think that the author of this verse did not write it this way?

In the beginning was Jesus the Word and
Jesus the Word was with God and Jesus the Word was God.
And Jesus the Word (which was God) was MADE FLESH.

Please if you will, answer this question,
to the best you can?

BrotherEastman 04-14-2014 09:13 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Sanders (Post 1308244)
Why do you think that the author of this verse did not write it this way?

In the beginning was Jesus the Word and
Jesus the Word was with God and Jesus the Word was God.
And Jesus the Word (which was God) was MADE FLESH.

Please if you will, answer this question,
to the best you can?
because it was already apparent that the Word (which was God) was made flesh. There is no other reason to put it into any other way. :thumbsup Pretty simple really.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 09:19 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1308246)
because it was already apparent that the Word (which was God) was made flesh. There is no other reason to put it into any other way. :thumbsup Pretty simple really.
Then why was the author writing about it?
Being it was apparent as you have said?

BrotherEastman 04-14-2014 09:56 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Sanders (Post 1308249)
Then why was the author writing about it?
Being it was apparent as you have said?
The Author (John) wrote about it so that you could understand. I wouldn't worry too much about it because there are millions who do not understand that Jesus was God manifested in the flesh. I myself have a hard time understanding why people just don't get it.

As far as why John didn't come out and say that Jesus the word was made flesh is redundant. All you need to understand is that the Word (which was God) was MADE FLESH.

Do you believe that Christ (the man) as you put it is the saviour? If so, then how do you view Isaiah 43:11 (I, even, I am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.) If you believe this from Isaiah, then the man Jesus could not have been the saviour unless He was God manifested in the flesh. I hope this helps a little bit.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 09:56 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
It is assumed that the author of this is the apostle John.

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. And the Word (which was God) was MADE FLESH.

The apostle John was with Jesus.
He would have wrote this after he was with Jesus.
Why did he not write it this way?

In the beginning was Jesus and Jesus was with God and the Jesus was God.
And Jesus (which was God) was MADE FLESH.
Or
In the beginning was Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ was with God and Jesus the Christ was God. And Jesus Christ (which was God) was MADE FLESH.

The point being, there is lots of room for error in your theory.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 09:59 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1308252)
The Author (John) wrote about it so that you could understand. I wouldn't worry too much about it because there are millions who do not understand that Jesus was God manifested in the flesh. I myself have a hard time understanding why people just don't get it.
And in rebuttal to this you have said, I would say to you

I wouldn't worry too much about it because there are millions who do not understand that Jesus was Michael the arch angel manifested in the flesh. I myself have a hard time understanding why people just don't get it.

Come on man.

Get real!

BrotherEastman 04-14-2014 10:00 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Sanders (Post 1308253)
It is assumed that the author of this is the apostle John.

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. And the Word (which was God) was MADE FLESH.

The apostle John was with Jesus.
He would have wrote this after he was with Jesus.
Why did he not write it this way?

In the beginning was Jesus and Jesus was with God and the Jesus was God.
And Jesus (which was God) was MADE FLESH.
Or
In the beginning was Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ was with God and Jesus the Christ was God. And Jesus Christ (which was God) was MADE FLESH.

The point being, there is lots of room for error in your theory.
Then help me to understand.

BrotherEastman 04-14-2014 10:02 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Sanders (Post 1308255)
And in rebuttal to this you have said, I would say to you

I wouldn't worry too much about it because there are millions who do not understand that Jesus was Michael the arch angel manifested in the flesh. I myself have a hard time understanding why people just don't get it.

Come on man.

Get real!
Oh, you were wanting to argue in a mean way, I'm sorry. I have nothing more to add then.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 10:02 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
I am debating them right now on the Internet
that claim Jesus is Michael the archangel. And they
like you have given me verses where they point to it and
say to me...see right there it is talking about Jesus.

JUST LIKE YOU

And just like you...they have a theory about why
it is the scriptures they pointed out is what they say it is.

Timmy 04-14-2014 10:04 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
lol

BrotherEastman 04-14-2014 10:04 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Sanders (Post 1308258)
I am debating them right now on the Internet
that claim Jesus is Michael the archangel. And they
like you have given me verses where they point to it and
say to me...see right there it is talking about Jesus.

JUST LIKE YOU

And just like you...they have a theory about why
it is the scriptures they pointed out is what they say it is.
You have ALL the answers then my friend. I will sit back and wait for others to reply.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 10:05 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1308257)
Oh, you were wanting to argue in a mean way, I'm sorry. I have nothing more to add then.
No, I do not want to even argue.
I just want you to be straight with me from your heart.
Heart to heart.

BrotherEastman 04-14-2014 10:06 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Sanders (Post 1308262)
No, I do not want to even argue.
I just want you to be straight with me from your heart.
Heart to heart.
I was and you were being mean. I thought we were having a heart to heart without the GET REAL! comment.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 10:09 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1308263)
I was and you were being mean. I thought we were having a heart to heart without the GET REAL! comment.
Alright, but on the same token you must also respect what I have to say.
So when you say something that I think is not real from your heart I will point it out and tell you. You do the same to me.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 10:12 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
There are those who claim Jesus is God. There are those who claim Jesus is Michael the archangel.

Then there are those like me that believe Jesus is
just the Christ the Son of the Living God, the messiah,
the Savior of His people.

Oh and now the Muslims are claiming
Jesus was a prophet under Mohamed.

Oh and you even have some claiming that they have another testament. They even wrote their own new testament to the new testament.

WHERE DOES ALL THIS NONSENSE END?

kclee4jc 04-14-2014 10:46 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
This.

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 10:51 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1308276)
This.

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
How Holy are you to God?

Dordrecht 04-14-2014 10:58 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Never mind.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 11:01 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1308280)
Never mind.
If you would like to discuss anything with me heart to heart.
I would be more than willing to do so.

Ask me any question you so desire.

Dordrecht 04-14-2014 11:02 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
No thanks.
I prefer to speak to normal people.

:icecream

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 11:13 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1308283)
No thanks.
I prefer to speak to normal people.

:icecream
That right there you have said
to me is not the words of someone who is born of God.

Those are the words of an evil spirit.

Dordrecht 04-14-2014 11:15 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Sure…whatever you say great teacher.

Have fun, as long it lasts, buddy.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 11:20 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1308286)
Sure…whatever you say great teacher.

Have fun, as long it lasts, buddy.
You do not seem to grasp the seriousness of
the SITUATION(trouble your in)) that has befallen upon you.

Timmy 04-14-2014 11:38 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Sanders (Post 1308288)
You do not seem to grasp the seriousness of
the SITUATION(trouble your in)) that has befallen upon you.
That reminds me. Do you know when I will die? And is it "not long" from now? Still?

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 11:41 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1308294)
That reminds me. Do you know when I will die? And is it "not long" from now? Still?
I am surprised you are still on earth.

There was space of time appointed for you to give the opportunity to repent. When that time has expired so will you.

Timmy 04-14-2014 11:54 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Sanders (Post 1308298)
I am surprised you are still on earth.

There was space of time appointed for you to give the opportunity to repent. When that time has expired so will you.
You are surprised? Really? So that date has come and gone?

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 11:57 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1308303)
You are surprised? Really? So that date has come and gone?
Say on, Let us know, what you have to say about it.

Pressing-On 04-14-2014 11:58 AM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
It's apparent that Robert is bored and is trying to find something to do.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 12:08 PM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1308307)
It's apparent that Robert is bored and is trying to find something to do.
I am so glad you could make it.
Say on I would like to know what you have to say about it.

Pressing-On 04-14-2014 12:13 PM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Sanders (Post 1308311)
I am so glad you could make it.
Say on I would like to know what you have to say about it.
I already said what I had to say, but will also add that your posts are boring. :bored

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 12:26 PM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1308303)
You are surprised? Really? So that date has come and gone?
The Lord just now told me you were granted an extension.
That would explain you being here now.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 12:27 PM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1308314)
I already said what I had to say, but will also add that your posts are boring. :bored
That would explain why you read them.

Dordrecht 04-14-2014 12:32 PM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1308314)
I already said what I had to say, but will also add that your posts are boring. :bored
Maybe time to stop responding to this guy and take the fun out of it for him.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 12:40 PM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1308326)
Maybe time to stop responding to this guy and take the fun out of it for him.
There are no take backs in this situation. What's done is done.

Timmy 04-14-2014 01:06 PM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1308314)
I already said what I had to say, but will also add that your posts are boring. :bored
Boring? You call posting that you know when Timmy will die, then admitting later that it didn't happen boring?!

:lol

Timmy 04-14-2014 01:07 PM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Sanders (Post 1308322)
The Lord just now told me you were granted an extension.
That would explain you being here now.
Lucky me.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 01:10 PM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1308335)
Lucky me.
No, it was I who got the blessing. Not you.

Robert Sanders 04-14-2014 01:11 PM
Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1308334)
Boring? You call posting that you know when Timmy will die, then admitting later that it didn't happen boring?!

:lol
None of this you have said to him is going to get you anything.
And he can't help you and you can't help him.


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