And I suppose that this demonstrates "good spirit"
 

Regarding I Cor. 11, it was brought up on the thread regarding women "preachers". And????????????? This passage is discussing headship & lineage, & not one single reputable transaltion adopts this as "Husband" & "Wife". "The head of Christ is God." Tell me Heavenlyone, is that also dicussing the "Marriage Life"? No, it discusses order & lineage....not husband & wife.

Funny, how you can demonstrate an uncharitable spirit, as in your 1st statement above, then deride me for putting the ball back in your court! Seems to me someone can dish it out, but.................

Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
 

Well, what's so funny is that I've been doing the same thing for several years now & am now thoroughly convinced that what we teach is right. I wanted to make sure that I wasn't teaching something wrong, as I would have to give an account if I do. I can honestly say that, according to His Word, God is against the literal adornments of jewelry by his people. By the way, who was the 1st one to wear "jewels"...while your in Ezek., perhaps you should quote that also.

Wedding rings are steeped in pagan tradition, & the practice was made a law by Pope Innocent III. Won't take the time here, but it's terribly pagan. And no, we don't wear watches either...before you ask. I, personally, do not like a neckties, but I see nothing wrong w/ a conservative tie, as part of a modest suit. The Bible only addresses "costly/modest apparel"...neither of which meager a necktie violates, but again, I personally don't care for them.

Re: Finally something we can agree on.............
 

Or :lol

Or maybe :tantrum

Or maybe :bored

Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
 

Actually, a necktie or a scarf (unless it is a heavy duty muffler to keep the neck and throat warm) are both just a cloth necklace.

I haven't bought any neckties lately but some of the last ones I bought were more expensive than the shirts that I wore them with.

Wouldn't the styles at GC and most of our district functions qualify as "costly array"?

Re: And I suppose that this demonstrates "good spi
 

Does this mean that I said nothing untrue in that post? If not, then what's the problem?

Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
 

Wrong.

1Pe 3:3
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
 

strange how folks can read passages like 1 Timothy 2:8-10 and 1 Peter 3:1-4 where we are told that jewelry, hair styles, and clothing are not the REAL adorning but we have a greater adorning from the Spirit within, and then selectively ban some of the stuff mentioned there.

Following is part of a post by Timlan from a couple of years ago about Marvin Hicks:

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I don't know how embellished this story was but he has a point. It is really one of the best refutations to those who mindlessly and stupidly Polly-Parrot I Peter 3: 3 to condemn wearing a watch or other jewelry.

Here's the scripture in question:

Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; (KJV)


Hicks told this anecdote many times in camp meeting messages.

After a camp meeting service he preached Hicks said a 12-13 year old boy approached him.

The boy said: "Preacher, do you believe in wearing a wristwatch?"

Hicks told congregations: "Well, he caught me redhanded. I had one on."

After Hicks told the kid "yes son, it's okay to wear a wristwatch", the boy said "well, have I got a scripture for you" and proceeded to tell the camp evangelist off.

After reading 1 Peter 3: 3 about the "wearing of gold" the boy began to lambast Hicks about preaching a camp meeting with a wristwatch on.

Hicks stopped the boy and calmly told him: "Son, read the rest of that verse. The part about 'apparel.'

The boy said "Apparel? What's that ?"

Hicks: "Son, that's your britches. That's the clothes you wear."

(I've pictured this conversation in my mind's eye over the decades ... it must have been hilarious in person.)

Hicks then told the kid: "Son, I'll make a deal with you. You're chewing me out for wearing a wristwatch and your scripture also says 'the wearing of apparel' in the same verse.

"So I'll make a deal with you, son. I'll take my wristwatch off if you'll take your clothes off."

Well, the kid didn't take the camp evangelist up on his offer.

This was some 30 years ago.

Looking on many pentecostal message boards, it seems a good segment of oneness pentecostalism is no less ignorant.

Re: Finally something we can agree on.............
 

Seems that while Peter attempts to say what Paul said in his letter, he didn't interpret it the same!!

Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
 

Let it NOT BE... the putting on of apparel.

NOT.

Clothing is expressly forbidden. According to your (rdp) interpretation of the jewelry clause.

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I might even come back to a UPC church if they start banning clothing on the sisters