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Re: T.D. Jakes, Mr. Obama, and Gay Marriage...

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1161818)

If you're in the inner circle, and you like it there, you're not going to put that at risk. Just sayin'.

:thumbsup

Re: T.D. Jakes, Mr. Obama, and Gay Marriage...

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I said maybe he is in prayer about how to respond.

How to respond?
A pastor/watchman who has been in the ministry for over 25 years does not know how to respond?
LOL.

Re: T.D. Jakes, Mr. Obama, and Gay Marriage...

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1161818)

If you're in the inner circle, and you like it there, you're not going to put that at risk. Just sayin'.

Not a bad response from someone who's not a Christian.

A prime example that he who is in the world is not stupid!
:heeheehee

Re: T.D. Jakes, Mr. Obama, and Gay Marriage...

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Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1161825)

How to respond?
A pastor/watchman who has been in the ministry for over 25 years does not know how to respond?
LOL.

It may be a dilemma for those who are participating in damage control. ;)

Re: T.D. Jakes, Mr. Obama, and Gay Marriage...

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1161818)

If you're in the inner circle, and you like it there, you're not going to put that at risk. Just sayin'.

:highfive

Re: T.D. Jakes, Mr. Obama, and Gay Marriage...

I think TD Jakes is a nice man. But, I'll follow the word of God to the best of my understanding no matter what Jakes says.

Most of the Gay people that I have met are nice people. But, I still believe that God meant for marriage to be between a man and a woman.

As far as civil unions for the purpose of insurance, property ownership/inheritance, and other legal issues, I don't care if Gays have civil unions; but I don't believe that churches should be forced to marry Gays.

Re: T.D. Jakes, Mr. Obama, and Gay Marriage...

A living will and power of attorney could replace civil unions and should be legal.

Any property held by more than one person should clearly state ownership and survivor provisions.

Re: T.D. Jakes, Mr. Obama, and Gay Marriage...

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Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1161826)

Not a bad response from someone who's not a Christian.

A prime example that he who is in the world is not stupid!
:heeheehee

:happydance

Re: T.D. Jakes, Mr. Obama, and Gay Marriage...

Don't know if anyone will be able to see this attachment or not.

Some times we can see them and some times we can't.

Re: T.D. Jakes, Mr. Obama, and Gay Marriage...

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1161844)

Don't know if anyone will be able to see this attachment or not.

Some times we can see them and some times we can't.

Wow! I'm actually authorized to see it! :)

It misses the point, IMO. Nobody in their right minds would "know" what God demands of them, and not do it, or "know" God demands that they not do, and do it anyway. Or at least, they would not do so flagrantly and shaking a figurative (or literal) fist at God. OK, I should say very few, rather than "nobody". ;)

But the vast majority of people who unrepentantly* do things you guys think God prohibits are merely disagreeing with you about what God prohibits. (And it's not just atheists! For crying out loud, there's plenty of arguing over these things among Christians, as you all know. ;))

This is something that is so obvious to me that it makes me wonder, sometimes, what the motivation behind things like this cartoon is. OK, actually, I don't really wonder. At least, I have a pretty good idea what the motivation is: it's to make people who disagree with them look like they are actually in conscious rebellion against God, and therefore well deserving of everything they get (hell being the most obvious, but also ridicule, reduced political clout, etc.).

* "Unrepentantly", meaning they don't believe it is wrong, nor that God actually prohibits it, in contrast to those who merely struggle with temptations, and occasionally (or often) lose that struggle.