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Esaias 11-15-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1287333)
Exactly. It's self-fulfilling. All promises in the Bible can be handled that way.

Considering the whole premise of 'faith', how could they be otherwise?

Consider also another promise in the bible, from Hebrews chapter 6:

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:

8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

Abiding Now 11-15-2013 08:43 PM

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One time I ate 6 cheese gut busters, fries and an apple pie from White Castle, then for a couple hours after, ate them again and again and again and lived.

Timmy 11-15-2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1287511)
Considering the whole premise of 'faith', how could they be otherwise?

Are you saying that objects of faith don't have to be actually true? That if you trust God to, say, heal you of a sickness, that if you are not actually healed, then, uh, .... OK what are you trying to say?

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Consider also another promise in the bible, from Hebrews chapter 6:

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:

8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
Do you have faith that this will happen to me?

Timmy 11-15-2013 10:22 PM

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Anybody going to vote No?

MarcBee 11-16-2013 02:34 AM

Re: If you drink any deadly thing.....
 
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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1287511)
Considering the whole premise of 'faith', how could they be otherwise?

Consider also another promise in the bible, from Hebrews chapter 6:

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:

8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.


Timmy Talk!
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...24#post1287624

Revelationist 11-16-2013 06:21 AM

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Jesus was talking about drinking the poison of the Pharisees.

Timmy 11-16-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 1287636)
Jesus was talking about drinking the poison of the Pharisees.

Of course he was. And as "signs" go, this is one of the most convincing of them all. I mean, how could anyone "drink" the "poison" of the Pharisees and not be hurt? Amazing!

Revelationist 11-16-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1287645)
Of course he was. And as "signs" go, this is one of the most convincing of them all. I mean, how could anyone "drink" the "poison" of the Pharisees and not be hurt? Amazing!

If you take the Bible literal you've literally been taken.

MarcBee 11-16-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 1287653)
If you take the Bible literal you've literally been taken.


Revelationist,
Does the above apply for the whole Bible, or just parts of it?

If "No, just some parts," who decides which are literal and which not?

OR if "Yes, all parts," then does it follow that all believers may interpret the words in whatever way suits them?

And how would you define "believer?" Do they have to believe any of the bible stories literally happened? If they do, why?

MarcBee 11-16-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1287449)
Also, you seem to have answered "Other" in theological terms, which is fine. I simply answered "Yes" in terms of reality . It's what will happen if I drink a deadly thing. (Some believers agree, as it turns out. ;))

Good point, I was hastily answering having Jesus' supposed words in view rather than the actual poll question in view. I should change my answer to "Yes" assuming the deadly drink was deadly ENOUGH.

On the other hand, "Don't Know" is good too, since I would hope to call CDC in Atlanta and ask whether there's a chemical antidote for what I drank.

Aren't there any AFF Christians who believe "No harm" in the common, literal sense?
:spit


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