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We are in agreement. I had the same thought about Rev. Billy Graham. It might be possible that he is not even following the news anymore.

There are a number of people who have yet to speak out, but if I heard correctly last night, it would be a mistake to predict him losing many in the A-A community. I heard that many of them are saying that they still have more in common with him than not. It may not matter in the end anyway.

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I wonder why they even have "spiritual advisors" since the government has been taking all reference to God out of governmental affairs ? Remember the separation of church and state ? They don't listen to spiritual advisors anyway. This is proof that a decision has been made (evolved) without one.

It's only political rhetoric to make the religious think that they have some say in the matters regarding "state".

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No they are attempting to corrupt the religious leaders by giving them access, power, and influence. They know that eventually they will sit silent about things they disagree with because they will want to change things from inside. This will corrupt them as it will become easier to compromise with sin until they are leading the cheerleaders of the wickedness to come.

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You bring up a good point. Those who believe that being gay is strongly influenced by environment and relationship with the same gender parent are implying that somewhere along the line these parents "messed up". The problem is... we all know very good parents who had children that were gay. I know a couple from a church I used to attend that were wonderful parents and their son "came out". Truth is... most of us who paid attention could tell long before he came out. Even in middle school he was "different". Maybe it was in the eyes and posture. The point is... he stated that he had been gay since as far back as he could remember. He simply never found girls attractive.

Eh, that's why I'm open to hearing from science on the issue. There very well might be some biological roots to the proclivity.

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We already know this is the case based on twin studies (twins separated at birth who were never on contact with each other -though rare they are a gold mine for researchers when found!). In these cases when one of the twins is gay (or a lesbian) it is FAR more likely that the twin is as well even though they shared ZERO environmental upbringing in common.

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I already answer this. Nobody noticed. :lol

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:thumbsup

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Probably not since Ronnie and Nancy used astrologers.

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I'm in and out here; which post #? ty