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Old 11-06-2024, 12:24 PM
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Re: Christians and Politics

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I follow…but this also comes to my mind…isn’t he not willing that any should perish, but they’re still perishing by the groves?


Is it possible that he is not allowing his will to be done with some things?

I don’t think I can wrap my mind around this stuff…hurts my brain…what all falls under “His will”, and if it’s accomplished even without the assistance of his body of Christ.


Not intending to argue your point…just thinking out loud


I figure he’s got it all under control know matter who gets voted in.
God wants many things that He doesn't necessarily get. Did He want Adam to sin? When it comes to human free will, God is willing to allow people to make their choices. If God just unilaterally saved everyone contrary to their own choice, then what exactly would "salvation" look like? It would look like eternity in hell for most people, because most people don't want anything to do with God.

So there is what people call "the permissive will of God", meaning there are things that God allows that aren't necessarily what He wants, in one sense, but He allows them to happen because in the larger scheme of things it is better. Thus God allows people free will, and allows them to choose evil, because to not allow them to choose evil would do more damage to His moral government of things than to allow them to exercise their free will.

As for the election, it hasn't even happened yet. The President and Vice President are not chosen by Mr and Mrs John Q Public. They are chosen by Electors, appointed by each State. Those Electors haven't yet voted as far as I know.

Thus, all the hundreds of millions of dollars spent on presenting the illusion of a "popular election", all the people involved in conveniently NOT emphasizing the actual election is not in the hands of Mr and Mrs John Q Public, proves beyond any possibility of refutation that the entire system is a racketeering confidence scam.
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