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Old 10-02-2007, 01:48 PM
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Lisa Powell, The Dayton Daily News / AP

Christy Winans, right, the mother of three of four children killed in a house fire in Greenville, Ohio, and her mother listen as a judge announces the release of a 10-year-old child accused of setting the fire.
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The child denies all the charges, the boy's attorney, David Rohrer, told Darke County Juvenile Court Judge Michael McClurg on Monday morning. Rohrer also said that while the boy was read his rights before questioning, his age prevented him from fully understanding the situation.

About three dozen people gathered outside the county government center cheered when it was announced outside that the boy would be freed immediately from a juvenile facility in nearby Troy.

The boy escaped the September 16 fire that killed his mother, Chanan Palmer; his half-sister Kaysha, 8, and three children of Christy Winans: Kayla Winans, 6; Je'Shawn Davis, 5; and Jasmine Davis, 3.

Christy Winans and her boyfriend escaped the blaze with minor or no injuries.

Neighbors in Greenville, Ohio, about 30 miles from Dayton, said the duplex became a raging inferno within five minutes.

Darke County Prosecutor Richard Howell told the Dayton Daily News last week that the boy didn't give investigators a clear motive. But when asked whether he was certain the boy was behind the fire, Howell told the newspaper, "Yes, I am."

Winans' mother, Sabrina Jones, screamed at the boy's supporters outside the court Monday.

"My grandkids didn't even see the age of 10," Jones yelled at the crowd as she hurried to her car.

While police have said the boy confessed to setting the blaze, his supporters say he gave in under three days of questioning.

"He was just made a scapegoat for the whole thing," said Burke L. Goines, the boy's uncle. "It's traumatizing to put a 10-year-old boy in a situation like this, to make other people look better in their investigation," Goines said.

"A lot of people know what really happened, and no one will come forward," said Vicky Perez, who described herself as a friend and neighbor of the boy's family.

William Zink, pastor of the New Life Pentecostals of Greenville, said the boy was a regular churchgoer, overcoming difficulties including the death in July of his stepfather from AIDS and what he said was the family's "wild lifestyle."

"It was not just your 'American pie' family," Zink said. He said the boy had no bed and slept on the couch in the duplex.

The boy will now be under house arrest and staying with grandmother Tammy Reed. He will be home-schooled at the grandmother's home, the court said.

A forensic and psychological examination was scheduled for Friday.

The judge Monday did nothing to change the charges against the boy: one juvenile count of arson and five counts of murder. The arson count carries a minimum of one to three years in detention. The murder counts could keep the boy in custody until age 21.

But the boy could be labeled a serious youth offender under Ohio law, which could lead to imprisonment for life.

Zink said the boy is worth saving from the juvenile justice system.

"You can't want a kid to be a scapegoat for something this horrific," he said.

"This little boy got taken away from his family and community," neighbor Perez said. "We just want him to come home."
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:14 PM
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I just saw this, rhoni. I did a google search for new life pentecostals of greenville but came up with not much at all.

did you watch the news footage from their local station?

I feel very bad for this 10 year old kid. Maybe he's a classic troubled kid, maybe he's not. We really don't have enough info to know one way or the other. But either way, the child just lost his mother and sister and a friend and her 3 children and he is accepting responsibility for all of that. That's a very heavy load for a child 10 years old. I pray that he is being surrounded by people who will love him in spite of what has happened.
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Just checked and this is a UPC church. Just thought you would like to know.
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This is only about 40 minutes from us - Bro. Zink is a wonderful man and they have a great church - glad they are able to help the boy. THis truly has been a tragic even and all over the news in our area.
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This is only about 40 minutes from us - Bro. Zink is a wonderful man and they have a great church - glad they are able to help the boy. THis truly has been a tragic even and all over the news in our area.
I am glad that the church is there for the boy but I worry about the heart of the mother in the picture. She is going to have a battle with resentment and I hope that she can eventually forgive. It is a tragedy on both sides.

We must all pray for everyone involved.

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We had Bro. Zink preach a couple youth events when I was youth director at our church. He is a class individual. I believe he played high school baseball with Ken Griffey Jr. Can someone verify that? His brother in-law pastors about an hour south from my place.
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We had Bro. Zink preach a couple youth events when I was youth director at our church. He is a class individual. I believe he played high school baseball with Ken Griffey Jr. Can someone verify that? His brother in-law pastors about an hour south from my place.
Bro. Bill Zink grew up at Calvary Church, Pastored by Bro. Norman Paslay. He is a class act and a good friend. I can't verify the Ken Griffey connection, athough it wouldn't surprise me. He was an awefully good softball player back in the day. I'm not surprised to see this church being Jesus to this boy. It's what they do.
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Bro. Bill Zink grew up at Calvary Church, Pastored by Bro. Norman Paslay. He is a class act and a good friend. I can't verify the Ken Griffey connection, athough it wouldn't surprise me. He was an awefully good softball player back in the day. I'm not surprised to see this church being Jesus to this boy. It's what they do.
The story's a real heart-breaker. But I admire a pastor who's willing to stick his neck out for a kid. That takes guts and a lot of faith.

My heart goes out to that mom pictured. I have absolutely no idea how I would handle such a circumstance.
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Bro. Bill Zink grew up at Calvary Church, Pastored by Bro. Norman Paslay. He is a class act and a good friend. I can't verify the Ken Griffey connection, athough it wouldn't surprise me. He was an awefully good softball player back in the day. I'm not surprised to see this church being Jesus to this boy. It's what they do.
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Will those of you who live near this area please keep us updated on this? I am burdened for this child and want us to continue to pray for all of the people involved. Thank you!
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