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07-13-2007, 01:07 AM
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Whats up with all this "Elder" stuff?
Just wondering...where do we get this "elder" stuff from????
Elder this and elder that and elder the other............
I think you cons should stick to the book......I don't see that title used anywhere.
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07-13-2007, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by NLYP
Just wondering...where do we get this "elder" stuff from????
Elder this and elder that and elder the other............
I think you cons should stick to the book......I don't see that title used anywhere.
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Have you read the Book that is the question.
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07-13-2007, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Have you read the Book that is the question.
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yup...loved 1st and 2nd Macabees.
LOLOL j/k
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07-13-2007, 01:45 AM
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????WHAT???? Well, the book I read records John referring to himself as "the Elder", records Paul speaking to "the elders" at Ephesus---etc. Strangely enough, at no point in time does "the Book" ever refer to holiness-minded, Bible-believing Christians as "cons".
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07-13-2007, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Polaris
????WHAT???? Well, the book I read records John referring to himself as "the Elder", records Paul speaking to "the elders" at Ephesus---etc. Strangely enough, at no point in time does "the Book" ever refer to holiness-minded, Bible-believing Christians as "cons".
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I thought I was the only con on this forum.
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07-13-2007, 04:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NLYP
Just wondering...where do we get this "elder" stuff from????
Elder this and elder that and elder the other............
I think you cons should stick to the book......I don't see that title used anywhere.
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The term "elder" is used 68 times in the New Testament. How many times is "youth pastor" used?
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07-13-2007, 04:43 AM
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arbitrary subjective label
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Originally Posted by Rico
The term "elder" is used 68 times in the New Testament. How many times is "youth pastor" used?
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Of them, my wife's favorite is Elder Beerman.
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07-13-2007, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by OP_Carl
Of them, my wife's favorite is Elder Beerman.
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Hehehehehehe! I see you are an early morning comedian!
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07-13-2007, 07:02 AM
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Elders............hmmmmm?
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Acts 14:21 - Acts 14:23 (KJV)
21And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and to Iconium, and Antioch,
22Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.
23And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.
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Titus 1:5 - Titus 1:16 (KJV)
5For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
6If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
7For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
8But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;
9Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
10For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
11Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake.
12One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
13This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
14Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
15Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
16They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
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Looks like Elder and Bishop are the same thing ....... and what's whit that "in every city"?
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07-13-2007, 07:07 AM
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I had never heard anyone called Elder or Bishop until I started posting on FCF... I think it is more of an ultra-con thing that is carrying over into the mainstream.
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