New Global Warming Study

[aegsm76]

link
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/05/ex...-climate-data/

snippets
A new study found adjustments made to global surface temperature readings by scientists in recent years “are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data.”
The peer-reviewed study tried to validate current surface temperature datasets managed by NASA, NOAA and the UK’s Met Office, all of which make adjustments to raw thermometer readings.
“Nearly all of the warming they are now showing are in the adjustments,” Meteorologist Joe D’Aleo, a study co-author, told The Daily Caller News Foundation in an interview. “Each dataset pushed down the 1940s warming and pushed up the current warming.”

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

link
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/05/ex...-climate-data/

snippets
A new study found adjustments made to global surface temperature readings by scientists in recent years “are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data.”
The peer-reviewed study tried to validate current surface temperature datasets managed by NASA, NOAA and the UK’s Met Office, all of which make adjustments to raw thermometer readings.
“Nearly all of the warming they are now showing are in the adjustments,” Meteorologist Joe D’Aleo, a study co-author, told The Daily Caller News Foundation in an interview. “Each dataset pushed down the 1940s warming and pushed up the current warming.”

Well, let's correct NASA and countless other agencies and independent researchers, the DailyCaller has spoken. LOL

Like I said, the conservatives have one this battle for this generation. I vote we sit back and see if they're right. If they prove to be wrong, hang 'em.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Well, let's correct NASA and countless other agencies and independent researchers, the DailyCaller has spoken. LOL

Like I said, the conservatives have one this battle for this generation. I vote we sit back and see if they're right. If they prove to be wrong, hang 'em.

Why do you do that? The study wasn't done by the DailyCaller. If you want to criticize the study, you can criticize Dr. James P. Wallace III, Dr. Joseph S. D’Aleo, and Dr. Craig D. Idso who authored the study.

You would also have to criticize the others who agree and support the findings of the study:

• Dr. Alan Carlin
  Retired Senior Analyst and manager, US Environmental Protection Agency, Washington, DC.
  Author, Environmentalism Gone Mad, Stairway Press, 2015.
  Ph.D., Economics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA.
  BS, Physics, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA.
  
• Dr. Harold H. Doiron
  Retired VP-Engineering Analysis and Test Division, InDyne, Inc.
  Ex-NASA JSC, Aerospace Consultant
  B.S. Physics, University of Louisiana - Lafayette
  M.S., Ph.D., Mechanical Engineering, University of Houston
  
• Dr. Theodore R. Eck
  Ph.D., Economics, Michigan State University
  M.A, Economics, University of Michigan
  Fulbright Professor of International Economics
  Former Chief Economist of Amoco Corp. and Exxon Venezuela
  Advisory Board of the Gas Technology Institute and Energy Intelligence Group
  
• Dr. Richard A. Keen
  Instructor Emeritus of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, University of Colorado
  Ph.D., Geography/Climatology, University of Colorado
  M.S., Astro-Geophysics, University of Colorado
  B.A., Astronomy, Northwestern University
  
• Dr. Anthony R. Lupo
  IPCC Expert Reviewer Professor, Atmospheric Science, University of Missouri Ph.D., Atmospheric Science, Purdue University
  M.S., Atmospheric Science, Purdue University
  
• Dr. Thomas P. Sheahen
  Ph.D., Physics, M.I.T.
  B.S., Physics, M.I.T.
  
• Dr. George T. Wolff
  Former Chair EPA's Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee Ph.D., Environmental Sciences, Rutgers University M.S., Meteorology, New York University B.S., Chemical Engineering, New Jersey Institute of Technology

But hey, you obviously are smarter than these guys and their degrees, right?

Link to PDF Study Doc

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Why do you do that? The study wasn't done by the DailyCaller. If you want to criticize the study, you can criticize Dr. James P. Wallace III, Dr. Joseph S. D’Aleo, and Dr. Craig D. Idso who authored the study.

You would also have to criticize the others who agree and support the findings of the study:

• Dr. Alan Carlin
  Retired Senior Analyst and manager, US Environmental Protection Agency, Washington, DC.
  Author, Environmentalism Gone Mad, Stairway Press, 2015.
  Ph.D., Economics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA.
  BS, Physics, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA.
  
• Dr. Harold H. Doiron
  Retired VP-Engineering Analysis and Test Division, InDyne, Inc.
  Ex-NASA JSC, Aerospace Consultant
  B.S. Physics, University of Louisiana - Lafayette
  M.S., Ph.D., Mechanical Engineering, University of Houston
  
• Dr. Theodore R. Eck
  Ph.D., Economics, Michigan State University
  M.A, Economics, University of Michigan
  Fulbright Professor of International Economics
  Former Chief Economist of Amoco Corp. and Exxon Venezuela
  Advisory Board of the Gas Technology Institute and Energy Intelligence Group
  
• Dr. Richard A. Keen
  Instructor Emeritus of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, University of Colorado
  Ph.D., Geography/Climatology, University of Colorado
  M.S., Astro-Geophysics, University of Colorado
  B.A., Astronomy, Northwestern University
  
• Dr. Anthony R. Lupo
  IPCC Expert Reviewer Professor, Atmospheric Science, University of Missouri Ph.D., Atmospheric Science, Purdue University
  M.S., Atmospheric Science, Purdue University
  
• Dr. Thomas P. Sheahen
  Ph.D., Physics, M.I.T.
  B.S., Physics, M.I.T.
  
• Dr. George T. Wolff
  Former Chair EPA's Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee Ph.D., Environmental Sciences, Rutgers University M.S., Meteorology, New York University B.S., Chemical Engineering, New Jersey Institute of Technology

But hey, you obviously are smarter than these guys and their degrees, right?

Link to PDF Study Doc

Who has more money to bribe scientists, NASA, or the fossil fuel industry? Let me guess, you still believe all the studies by doctors paid by big tobacco that said tobacco is good for us don't you?

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by n david

Why do you do that?

Because of who he is. Anything that doesn't fit the Lieberal/Regressive mantra is anathema to him.

[Esaias]

Liberals are obviously insane, so no use even bothering with them beyond (click) "Get off my lawn!"

Meanwhile...

What's funny is the temperature readings have to be "adjusted". That's rich. Er, more like "that's an obvious clue you are being lied to."

What's even funnier is NOAA and the National Weather Service are now basically branches of the "intelligence community" tasked with "top secret national security stuff". That, of course, means you can REALLY really trust what they have to say.

I won't even bother commenting on NASA's pristine record of credibility.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Liberals are obviously insane, so no use even bothering with them beyond (click) "Get off my lawn!"

Meanwhile...

What's funny is the temperature readings have to be "adjusted". That's rich. Er, more like "that's an obvious clue you are being lied to."

What's even funnier is NOAA and the National Weather Service are now basically branches of the "intelligence community" tasked with "top secret national security stuff". That, of course, means you can REALLY really trust what they have to say.

I won't even bother commenting on NASA's pristine record of credibility.

[votivesoul]

My dad is what I would call a low to mid-level range conspiracy theorist. His best friend is a Grand Master. This friend's greatest interest is chemtrails.

He has a room in his attic that is nothing but vhs cassettes of daily recordings of chemtrails that goes back years. After a nonstop barrage of emails and letters, he had Congressman Paul Ryan--before he was Speaker of the House--come out to talk to him personally two times to try and relieve his concerns (We all live in WI, where Congressman Ryan is from, and we all live pretty close to his area of jurisdiction).

It is his belief, and my dad's, that chemtrails are attempts at weather manipulation. My dad's most recent thought is, why is it that after President Trump refused to sign the Paris Accords back in late May, we immediately had record, unseasonably warm high temps for two straight weeks after? Here in southeastern WI, the temps were in the high 80's to low 90's.

[votivesoul]

When I was in college, my minor was Geography. During course work on meteorology, one of the things we took some time to look at and talk about, was how to accurately gauge temperatures.

It's kind of a long-winded description, but basically, there are several factors that go into determining accurate temps. One is location. Depending on where a person is, the temperature can be different. Of course that is obvious, but what's not always obvious is that that is true not just horizontally but vertically as well. As one passes between the stratosphere or ionosphere, and etc., air temps are different, sometimes in ways that are surprising.

Also, there is what's called the albedo effect. Basically that measures the amount of reflection incoming solar radiation experiences. The tops of clouds, snow cover, and water are all very reflective, and send the insolation back into the atmosphere, affecting temps.

Additionally, ground temps are not considered reliable for the following reason: depending on the ground surface type and amount of precipitation, one parcel of land can be hotter or colder than an adjacent parcel of land. For example: ever walk along on some grass on the way to a beach and then transition to sand or blacktop?

Attempting to take an accurate reading from the ground is therefore not considered very reliable. Also to just stick a thermometer outside and take a temperature isn't any good either, as it depends on whether it's in direct sunlight, shade, and the duration thereof.

So, instead, the most accurate measurement of temperature is to house a thermometer in a well ventilated but roofed-in box that is between 6 and 8 feet off the ground.

Here is a pic. It's called a Stevenson Screen:



Here is some info about them:

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/repor...son-Screen.htm

Any official air temperature data that is being taken by any of the named orgs in the OP that are not from Stevenson Screens or a very similar apparatus, is corrupted and useless. Any interpretations of such corrupted, useless data is therefore immediately specious.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

My dad is what I would call a low to mid-level range conspiracy theorist. His best friend is a Grand Master. This friend's greatest interest is chemtrails.

He has a room in his attic that is nothing but vhs cassettes of daily recordings of chemtrails that goes back years. After a nonstop barrage of emails and letters, he had Congressman Paul Ryan--before he was Speaker of the House--come out to talk to him personally two times to try and relieve his concerns (We all live in WI, where Congressman Ryan is from, and we all live pretty close to his area of jurisdiction).

It is his belief, and my dad's, that chemtrails are attempts at weather manipulation. My dad's most recent thought is, why is it that after President Trump refused to sign the Paris Accords back in late May, we immediately had record, unseasonably warm high temps for two straight weeks after? Here in southeastern WI, the temps were in the high 80's to low 90's.

Chemtrails aren't conspiracy theory.

They didn't exist when I was a kid.

Cloud formations were very different when I was younger.

I have watched chemtrails turn a pristine, clear blue sky into an overcast mess from horizon to horizon in a matter of hours.

Aerial spraying for "geoengineering" and "weather modification" has been admitted by the government in the last two years.

Chemtrails are somehow connected with the microwave towers that are now everywhere, and Doppler radar stations operated by the NWS. Microwave and radar emissions can affect the atmosphere, when combined with metallic dust particles a la chemtrails it makes for a completely workable weather manipulation system.

Google "dutchsinse" for video footage of Doppler effects and radar "bursts" just prior to severe weather . He's been able to predict severe weather 1-3 days in advance due to watching for "radar artifacts" which he believes are indications of high energy pulsed emissions and scalar waves formed by microwave and/or HAARP activity.