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Old 04-12-2017, 11:52 AM
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Spicer, Hitler and Trump's Remarkable Change

Sean Spicer . . . oh that was painful to watch. Honestly most of his press briefings have been difficult to watch, but yesterday's briefing was even more painful. I'm not impressed with his style and mannerisms, but I don't dislike him. He started off on the wrong foot with his very first presser in which he berated the press over the Inauguration crowd size. Such a stupid thing to complain about, but it set the tone which has not improved since.

During yesterday's presser, there was this exchange:

"""Q Thanks a lot, Sean. The alliance between Russia and Syria is a strong one; it goes back decades. President Putin has supplied personnel, he’s supplied military equipment to the Assad government. What makes you think that at this point he’s going to pull back in his support for President Assad and for the Syrian government right now?

MR. SPICER: I think a couple things. You look -- we didn't use chemical weapons in World War II. You had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn't even sink to using chemical weapons. So you have to, if you're Russia, ask yourself is this a country that you and a regime that you want to align yourself with? You have previously signed on to international agreements rightfully acknowledging that the use of chemical weapons should be out of bounds by every country. To not stand up to not only Assad, but your own word, should be troubling.

Russia put their name on the line. So it’s not a question of how long that alliance has lasted, but at what point do they recognize that they are now getting on the wrong side of history in a really bad way really quickly.

And again, look at the countries that are standing with them: Iran, Syria, North Korea. This is not a team you want to be on. And I think that Russia has to recognize that while they may have had an alliance with them, that the lines that have been crossed are ones that no country should ever want to see another country cross."""

You had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn't even sink to using chemical weapons.

Uh, Mr. Spicer, sir, Hitler actually gassed Jews. Now, I get some on AFF may dispute this or the numbers, but there's evidence Hitler gassed Jews.

Then he dug the hole deeper:

"""Q Sean, thanks. I just want to give you an opportunity to clarify something you said that seems to be gaining some traction right now. “Hitler didn’t even sink to the level of using chemical weapons.” What did you mean by that?

MR. SPICER: I think when you come to sarin gas, there was no -- he was not using the gas on his own people the same way that Assad is doing, I mean, there was clearly -- I understand your point, thank you."""

Oh, okay. Hitler didn't use Sarin gas on other Germans, instead he used Zyklon B on Jews. Gotcha. That's totally different than the Syria allegations.

Continuing . . .

"""Q I'm just getting --

MR. SPICER: Thank you, I appreciate that. There was not -- he brought them into the Holocaust center, I understand that. But I’m saying in the way that Assad used them, where he went into towns, dropped them down to innocent -- into the middle of towns. It was brought -- so the use of it -- I appreciate the clarification there. That was not the intent.





"he [Hitler] brought them into the Holocaust center." Is that like an amusement park or museum? What in the world is Spicer talking about??? The "Holocaust center?" Oh, you mean Auschwitz??

"in the way Assad used them ... dropped them down to innocent..." Jews weren't innocent, obviously. Certainly at least one here on AFF has gone to great lengths to try and prove how awful and satanic the Jews are.

Man, oh man, Spicer. I almost feel bad for the guy.

The reaction from the Democrats was just as bad. Pelosi and the Anne Frank Center demanded he be fired. Please. Should he clarify and apologize? Absolutely, and he did. But fired? No. He made a mistake. (I'd be tempted to get up at the next presser and list all of Pelosi's mistakes and dumb comments, but that's me.)

I doubt I could do Spicer's job ... especially with a POTUS like Trump! You have to know so many key issues, terminology, names, dates, places, etc. And then if you misspeak or make a mistake, you're hoping POTUS doesn't listen to the crowd and fire you.
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:53 AM
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Suffice it to say, we should stop comparing things to Hitler. Unless we're comparing Hitler with Hitler.
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:56 AM
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Spicer will not make it the full 4 years and frankly, he doesn't do the Trump Administration any favors by sticking around.

He should resign. He is not serving this Administration well at all.
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Spicer is a buffoon, he needs to be replaced, I'm sorry but people in the media spotlight should be brilliant and smooth as silk.
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Old 04-12-2017, 12:26 PM
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In other news, anyone else suffering from whiplash? How about the Trump supporters on AFF who were drawn to Trump's non-interventionist foreign policy?

Trump has authorized an attack on Syria, has requested and received options for a military strike on North Korea, and today I'm hearing they're talking about further military action (boots on the ground) in Yemen.

It's disappointing. Seems like each POTUS, once they take the oath, suddenly change and become an agent for the globalist cabal.
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Old 04-12-2017, 12:29 PM
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Spicer will not make it the full 4 years and frankly, he doesn't do the Trump Administration any favors by sticking around.

He should resign. He is not serving this Administration well at all.
Press Secretary's typically do not stay in the position a full term.

Clinton had 5 different in his two terms; W had 4; obama had 3.

It's not an easy position to hold. Every word is scrutinized, every mistake criticized.

To your initial statement, I agree, Spicer won't stay the full term.

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Old 04-12-2017, 12:33 PM
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Spicer is a buffoon, he needs to be replaced, I'm sorry but people in the media spotlight should be brilliant and smooth as silk.
I don't believe he's a buffoon, though I don't personally like his style and aggressiveness. Sometimes I believe he picks the wrong fights -- like the crowd size at the Inauguration.

No WH Press Secretary has been smooth as silk. Each one has spun the narrative, stretched the truth, or outright lied.

I wouldn't want to try being in that position.
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I don't believe he's a buffoon, though I don't personally like his style and aggressiveness. Sometimes I believe he picks the wrong fights -- like the crowd size at the Inauguration.

No WH Press Secretary has been smooth as silk. Each one has spun the narrative, stretched the truth, or outright lied.

I wouldn't want to try being in that position.
I don't think he has the right personality for the job, I feel sorry for him when I watch him, that position needs someone with more finesse, he is to easily flustered
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I don't think he has the right personality for the job, I feel sorry for him when I watch him, that position needs someone with more finesse, he is to easily flustered
I agree.

I understand it must be a frustrating job. You have the press constantly picking, trying to find some scandal in everything. Then you have a POTUS who can, with one Tweet, send the day into absolute chaos for the West Wing staff, especially Spicer.

But there must be someone who, as you posted, has more finesse and is able to handle the press a little better.

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Hitler did not use chemical weapons on the battlefield. That is all Spicer meant. This is a non-story.
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