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09-20-2016, 03:27 PM
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Hillary Supporters Should Be Worried
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...his-in-a-week/
Trump is going to win. I've said all along that Hillary is an abysmal candidate. Her baggage is far and above worse than any discomfort that the Donald causes voters.
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09-21-2016, 08:47 AM
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Re: Hillary Supporters Should Be Worried
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Yeah, after serving over 30 years in public life, one tends to acquire a great deal of baggage. How many public offices has Trump held???
Also, my daughter benefited greatly from SCHIP (which was originally a part of "Hillarycare"). So have nearly 8 million other American children. Most likely, even kids in your family and/or the families you know have been served by the funding this program provided.
And let's not even mention Hillary's push to allow families of wounded veterans to claim FMLA when caring for our wounded vets.
What has Donald Trump done for you and those you love?
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09-21-2016, 08:58 AM
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Re: Hillary Supporters Should Be Worried
Isn't it sad....? The Republican Party's policies and agenda are such an abysmal failure, they felt like the only way they could even try to beat a Democratic candidate was to run a "stealth candidate" with absolutely no substantial political record to tout or criticize.
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09-21-2016, 09:41 AM
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Re: Hillary Supporters Should Be Worried
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Isn't it sad....? The Republican Party's policies and agenda are such an abysmal failure, they felt like the only way they could even try to beat a Democratic candidate was to run a "stealth candidate" with absolutely no substantial political record to tout or criticize.
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There is enough failure to go around for both.
And believe me the vase majority of the Republican leadership wanted anyone but Trump.
If Kasich were the nominee, he would be soundly beating Hillary in the polls, at this point.
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09-21-2016, 10:22 AM
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Re: Hillary Supporters Should Be Worried
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There is enough failure to go around for both.
And believe me the vase majority of the Republican leadership wanted anyone but Trump.
If Kasich were the nominee, he would be soundly beating Hillary in the polls, at this point.
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I agree that he'd be doing far better than Trump. lol
Frankly, I think trump played the deep xenophobic, racist, and fascist impulses found among a significant portion of the Republican electorate against the Republican Party itself to win the Primary. In my opinion his is a campaign of hate, fear, and division.
As for Hillary, I voted for Bernie Sanders in the Primaries. She was definitely not my first pick. But, we're stuck with her. The goal now, defeat Trump and take back the majority in Congress by voting for progressives endorsed by Sanders. That way we can push ahead with the vision and hold Hillary's feet to the fire where she tends to waffle.
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09-21-2016, 10:33 AM
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Re: Hillary Supporters Should Be Worried
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Frankly, I think trump played the deep xenophobic, racist, and fascist impulses found among a significant portion of the Republican electorate against the Republican Party itself to win the Primary. In my opinion his is a campaign of hate, fear, and division.
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The right is not the racists in this country, it's always been the left. Senator Robert Byrd - a mentor to Hillary Clinton and a Democrat - was a high ranking member of the KKK, which was started by the Democrat party as their enforcement arm. Fascism has also always been a tool of the left, not the right.
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09-21-2016, 10:34 AM
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Re: Hillary Supporters Should Be Worried
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Sometimes hidden dangers spring on us suddenly. Those are out of our control. But when one can see the danger, and then refuses to arrest , all in the name of "God is in control", they are forfeiting God given, preventive opportunities.
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09-21-2016, 11:53 AM
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Re: Hillary Supporters Should Be Worried
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I agree that he'd be doing far better than Trump. lol
Frankly, I think trump played the deep xenophobic, racist, and fascist impulses found among a significant portion of the Republican electorate against the Republican Party itself to win the Primary. In my opinion his is a campaign of hate, fear, and division.
As for Hillary, I voted for Bernie Sanders in the Primaries. She was definitely not my first pick. But, we're stuck with her. The goal now, defeat Trump and take back the majority in Congress by voting for progressives endorsed by Sanders. That way we can push ahead with the vision and hold Hillary's feet to the fire where she tends to waffle.
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Really.
I must be a part of "the deplorables" in your and HRC's opinion.
How has what Trump has said been xenophobic, racist or fascist?
Can you give me an example?
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09-21-2016, 12:41 PM
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Re: Hillary Supporters Should Be Worried
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The right is not the racists in this country, it's always been the left. Senator Robert Byrd - a mentor to Hillary Clinton and a Democrat - was a high ranking member of the KKK, which was started by the Democrat party as their enforcement arm. Fascism has also always been a tool of the left, not the right.
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Democrats are all too well acquainted with racism and the fascist elements. It is indeed a part of our history. Perhaps it is knowing these facts that make modern Democrats so uneasy and rather apologetic in their political approach. In short, we learned our lesson with regards to racism. For this reason Democrats can be rather extreme in their quest for equality as it relates to civil rights. We'd grant a hamster a civil right to marriage and anti-discrimination protection if it would cleanse our conscience of the sins of our fathers. It is for this reason that we are at the forefront of all civil rights advancement.
So, to your charge that Democrats have a history of racism, we plead... guilty as charged. And our remorse runs deep.
However, history has a way of changing things. As the Democratic Party began its "shift" from the low brow ideas of racism and fascist military supremacy, the racists and fascists migrated. They migrated to radical parties of the far right. And as many elements of the Republican Party have drifted further and further right, they've even found a home in the Republican Party.
The Republican Party isn't racist. However, today it harbors many racists. For example, I know a family that now lives in Tennessee. They live in the mountains and they are gun collecting, flag waving, "Don't Tread On Me", types. And yes.... they are racist to the core. Who are they voting for? A resounding "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!", will fill the air if you asked them. They like the idea of a wall to keep those "Da** Mexicans in their own da** country!" They like the idea of refusing foreign refugees who are, in their opinion, "Nothing but terrorist Sand N*****s". They firmly believe that Obama and the Democrats are after their guns. They believe America will descend into a "race war" and... they "plan to be ready". They also don't think too fondly of gays, liberals, Jews, or Catholics. They aren't KKK. They are just racists. When I brought this up to Mike, my friend from high school who now lives in Tennessee, as he cares for their ailing father, he said, "Look, in America, I have a right to believe whatever I da**ed well please. That's the thing with you liberals. You guys want to control what everybody thinks. If I don't like black people, I have that right. And that's what the Republicans understand. That's why I'm a Republican." He is among the "deplorables" that Hillary was talking about. Not every Republican believes like Mike and his family. But many agree with Mike, the Republicans firmly believe they have the right to be racist to the core. And so, they are registered Republicans.
Mike's right about one thing. We as Democrats would make anyone who thinks that way rather uncomfortable. And they are not welcome to our party. If you don't believe that these elements are indeed a part of your party and feverishly support Trump.... well.... if you can't see the obvious, there's nothing I can do.
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09-21-2016, 12:45 PM
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Re: Hillary Supporters Should Be Worried
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Really.
I must be a part of "the deplorables" in your and HRC's opinion.
How has what Trump has said been xenophobic, racist or fascist?
Can you give me an example?
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Why would I think that? I know many fine Republicans. However, every racist I happen to know is Republican or so anti-establishment they even hate the Republicans for not being far right enough.
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