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Old 04-25-2016, 07:00 AM
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Are Cruz's actions right?

Please spare me "the rules" mantra. Cruz's going after delegates in States won by Trump is not illegal. So please do not chase that rabbit.

I am asking simply is it right for Cruz to be defying the will of the vast majority of GOP voters? How can Cruz expect a mass GOP turnout in November if he took something by "negotiating" with delegates that GOP voters refused to give him?
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Old 04-25-2016, 09:37 AM
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Re: Are Cruz's actions right?

first let me state my divided allegiance's...

I voted for Cruz.
I wish Kasich would have won (don't pass out Pressing On..)
I will vote for Trump if he gets the nomination.


My opinion of all this? Yes I think its right. I want the guy that is smart enough to figure out what is necessary to get where he needs to be.


if we had one guy gaining the majority (not the plurality) that would be very different. But Trump isn't getting majority votes. He is below 50% across the board. just because he has the largest minority doesn't mean the majority of republicans want him.


Now to deal this idea that Cruz is going to kill turnout. The same can be said of Trump and his antics. \

The simple fact is, no matter who the republican nominee is, he will be a person who has hacked off a large number of would-be republican voters.


The better question for all of us is, regardless of our bias, can we put that away long enough to insure that evil tyrant law breaking thug-Progressive HILLARY doesn't get elected.
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Old 04-25-2016, 10:19 AM
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Re: Are Cruz's actions right?

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first let me state my divided allegiance's...

I voted for Cruz.
I wish Kasich would have won (don't pass out Pressing On..)
I will vote for Trump if he gets the nomination.


My opinion of all this? Yes I think its right. I want the guy that is smart enough to figure out what is necessary to get where he needs to be.


if we had one guy gaining the majority (not the plurality) that would be very different. But Trump isn't getting majority votes. He is below 50% across the board. just because he has the largest minority doesn't mean the majority of republicans want him.


Now to deal this idea that Cruz is going to kill turnout. The same can be said of Trump and his antics. \

The simple fact is, no matter who the republican nominee is, he will be a person who has hacked off a large number of would-be republican voters.


The better question for all of us is, regardless of our bias, can we put that away long enough to insure that evil tyrant law breaking thug-Progressive HILLARY doesn't get elected.
You have some consolation, Ferdinand. Kasich has won ONE state, and I now know how to spell his name.
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Old 04-25-2016, 03:19 PM
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You have some consolation, Ferdinand. Kasich has won ONE state, and I now know how to spell his name.
giggle...

seriously I did vote for Cruz. im against trump winning the nomination but if he does, I will support him.


on the one thing that matters, Kasich (did I spell it right because I really have no clue) is the only guy in this whole thing that has any skins on the wall.

Kasich is the only man walking the face of the earth that has written a balanced budget. THE. ONLY. period.

there isn't a second issue. if we don't fix the debt, we don't have a country to fight over.
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Old 04-25-2016, 03:40 PM
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first let me state my divided allegiance's...

I voted for Cruz.
I wish Kasich would have won (don't pass out Pressing On..)
I will vote for Trump if he gets the nomination.


My opinion of all this? Yes I think its right. I want the guy that is smart enough to figure out what is necessary to get where he needs to be.


if we had one guy gaining the majority (not the plurality) that would be very different. But Trump isn't getting majority votes. He is below 50% across the board. just because he has the largest minority doesn't mean the majority of republicans want him.







Now to deal this idea that Cruz is going to kill turnout. The same can be said of Trump and his antics. \

The simple fact is, no matter who the republican nominee is, he will be a person who has hacked off a large number of would-be republican voters.


The better question for all of us is, regardless of our bias, can we put that away long enough to insure that evil tyrant law breaking thug-Progressive HILLARY doesn't get elected.

Polls now show he would have a majority if either GOP opponent left the race. Even with just a plurality, he dwarfs Cruz and his lead is growing again.
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Old 04-25-2016, 03:45 PM
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The better question for all of us is, regardless of our bias, can we put that away long enough to insure that evil tyrant law breaking thug-Progressive HILLARY doesn't get elected.
I am with you, anyone is better than Hitlary RottenHam Klingon.
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Old 04-25-2016, 04:20 PM
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I will write in Ted Cruz before marking the oval for Trump.
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Old 04-25-2016, 04:22 PM
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I am asking simply is it right for Cruz to be defying the will of the vast majority of GOP voters? How can Cruz expect a mass GOP turnout in November if he took something by "negotiating" with delegates that GOP voters refused to give him?
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Old 04-25-2016, 04:24 PM
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#NeverTrump

I will write in Ted Cruz before marking the oval for Trump.
nd - c'mon you can be more dramatic than that!
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giggle...

seriously I did vote for Cruz. im against trump winning the nomination but if he does, I will support him.


on the one thing that matters, Kasich (did I spell it right because I really have no clue) is the only guy in this whole thing that has any skins on the wall.

Kasich is the only man walking the face of the earth that has written a balanced budget. THE. ONLY. period.

there isn't a second issue. if we don't fix the debt, we don't have a country to fight over.
Both Gilmour and another researcher, political scientist B. Dan Wood at Texas A&M University, told PolitiFact that the groundwork for deficit reduction was laid in legislation passed in 1990 and 1993. The 1993 law increased taxes on the well-to-do as well as people of more modest means. Kasich opposed both measures.

Wood notes that at least on paper, the 1997 law did trim spending by $127 billion between 1997 and 2002. He also points to the Tax Reduction Act of 1997 that, among other steps, reduced the capital gains tax from 28 to 20 percent, and child tax credits. But Wood says the timing of the surpluses and key elements of those two laws don’t line up.

"The budget was in balance before any of the provisions of these laws came into effect," Wood said. "So, Kasich could not have been responsible for balancing the budget."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...s-one-chief-a/
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