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Old 03-09-2015, 11:34 PM
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Is hosanna to be a noun or a verb?

I was listening to a song that said hosanna and I haven't looked up the word in a while. The King James translators seem to make it a noun by the capitalization. The Greek seems to denote it to be a verb "save us". This is not to cast doubt on KJV, but instead to cause us to cry out Hosanna with a clearer understanding. JESUS SAVE US!!!!! HOSANNA TO THE HIGHEST!!!!

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Old 03-10-2015, 09:36 AM
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Re: Is hosanna to be a noun or a verb?

Noun or verb - it is a wonderful way to express our praise to the King of Kings!
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Re: Is hosanna to be a noun or a verb?

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I was listening to a song that said hosanna and I haven't looked up the word in a while. The King James translators seem to make it a noun by the capitalization. The Greek seems to denote it to be a verb "save us". This is not to cast doubt on KJV, but instead to cause us to cry out Hosanna with a clearer understanding. JESUS SAVE US!!!!! HOSANNA TO THE HIGHEST!!!!
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Perhaps it's capitalized because it begins a sentence.
Examples
"... the children crying in the temple, and saying, 'Hosanna!' to
the Son of David...";

"...and they that followed, cried, saying, 'Hosanna!' Blessed is
he that comes in the name of the Lord..."
;
"...and cried, 'Hosanna!' Blessed is the King of Israel that comes
in the name of the Lord.


Note that the next word following Hosanna!' also begins with a
capital letter: the beginning of another sentence. Consequently,
the word "hosanna" is not a noun.
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Old 03-10-2015, 11:09 AM
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Re: Is hosanna to be a noun or a verb?

I would say the ongoing IT DEPENDS...

It may be either/or depending on the context of course. the word comes from the Hebrew word Yasha which means to save, or be saved, be delivered. Here the word in Hebrew also depends on context to determine the verb stem (banyan) if it is Niphal it is "to be" this is being done to you, or someone is doing this to you. If it is Hiphal then you are doing the action. in either case this would be a verb sense.

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Old 03-10-2015, 04:27 PM
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I was listening to a song that said hosanna and I haven't looked up the word in a while. The King James translators seem to make it a noun by the capitalization. The Greek seems to denote it to be a verb "save us". This is not to cast doubt on KJV, but instead to cause us to cry out Hosanna with a clearer understanding. JESUS SAVE US!!!!! HOSANNA TO THE HIGHEST!!!!

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Hosanna isnt Greek. Its Hebrew

Its capitalized because its at the beginning of a sentence
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:18 PM
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Re: Is hosanna to be a noun or a verb?

thanks for correcting me. It is only used in the NT is why assumed greek. I took it to be a verb, but most do not. English is not my strongest subject, but it doesn't appear to be the first word of the sentence.
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i thought it was an exclamation? Woo~hoo!
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hōsanná; an interjection. Hosanna! from the Hebr. meaning save now, help now, or save we pray thee. It became a word of common acclamation (Psa_118:25), and later a common form of wishing safety and prosperity, Save and prosper, O Lord (Mar_11:9-10; Joh_12:13). With the dat. following, "to the Son of David" (Mat_21:9, Mat_21:15).
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Re: Is hosanna to be a noun or a verb?

Speaking of hosanna!


A WEEK BEFORE HE RESURRECTED
March 29, 2015

Mat 21:1-12 KJV And when they drew nigh unto Jerusalem, and were come to Bethphage, unto the mount of Olives, then sent Jesus two disciples, (2) Saying unto them, Go into the village over against you, and straightway ye shall find an ass tied, and a colt with her: loose them, and bring them unto me. (3) And if any man say ought unto you, ye shall say, The Lord hath need of them; and straightway he will send them. (4) All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, (5) Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass. (6) And the disciples went, and did as Jesus commanded them, (7) And brought the ass, and the colt, and put on them their clothes, and they set him thereon. (8) And a very great multitude spread their garments in the way; others cut down branches from the trees, and strawed them in the way. (9) And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest. (10) And when he was come into Jerusalem, all the city was moved, saying, Who is this? (11) And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee. (12) And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

This passage shows the events that happened a week before Jesus resurrcted.

They call it Palm Sunday because the poeple recognized Jesus as the king prophesied by Zechariah because of the way Jesus rode into Jerusalem on an ass and the colt foal of an ass, and threw palm leaves on the ground for him to march in upon.

Victory!

Palm trees and leaves symbolize victory.

And they cried HOSANNA. Blessed is he who comes in the name of heh Lord (verse 9.)

Hosanna means, Save us, we beseech thee, o king.

They were crying the words that are found in Psalm 118.

Psa 118:25-26 KJV Save now, I beseech thee, O LORD: O LORD, I beseech thee, (HOSANNA) send now prosperity. (26) Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the LORD: we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD.

Matt 21:9 And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest.


They believed the kingdom was coming!
But they misunderstood and did not know it was a spiritual kingdom.

Zec 9:9 KJV Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

They knew he had salvation when He came.

Notice Psalm 118 says WE HAVE BLESSED YOU OUT OF THE HOUSE OF THE LORD.

When Jesus goes to the temple, the house of the Lord, He does not see them blessing Him!

Mat 21:10-13 KJV And when he was come into Jerusalem, all the city was moved, saying, Who is this? (11) And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee. (12) And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, (13) And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

They were changing money in the temple when the religious leaders should have been CHANGING LIVES and worshiping Jesus when He came in!

And before the week was out, they crucified Him!

What a difference a week makes!

And the next time Sunday rolled around HE RESURRECTED AS KING OF KINGS and CONQUERED DEATH AND THE GRAVE!

And the wonderful thing is that in the Psalm 118 where they cried the same words HOSANNA, BLESSED IS HE THAT COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, we read these words JUST BEFORE THEM!

Psa 118:22-26 KJV The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. (23) This is the LORD'S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes. (24) This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it. (25) Save now, I beseech thee, O LORD: O LORD, I beseech thee, send now prosperity. (26) Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the LORD: we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD.

What DAY was it that the stone the builders rejected was made the head of the corner? What day do we rejoice in?

Jesus was made head of the corner ON THE DAY OF HIS RESURRECTION.
It occurred one week later!
The very next Sunday

In the same chapter where they initially accepted Him as King and cried Hosanna from Psalm 118, we read they rejected Him.

Then He said these words.

Mat 21:42 KJV Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

That was from the SAME PSALM at HOSANNA and BLESSED IS HE THAT COMETH IN THE NAME OF THE LORD is from!

They read about Hosanna, and blessing the name of the Lord.
But what about a few verses before!
They knew verse 25 and 26.
What about verse 22?

They weren't in the house of the Lord blessing Him!

Look what happened after he entered the temple and flipped their money tables:

Mat 21:23 KJV And when he was come into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came unto him as he was teaching, and said, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority?

They were in the temple, but they weren't blessing him out of it.
They were "blessing him out!"

But after that Sunday, the last week before the cross took place.
His unpopular days.
He called them hypocrites.
Cried for Jerusalem from the mount of Olives and said her house would be left desolate.
He said that generation would not pass before every stone of the temple was toppled over.
Judgment would come as unexpectedly on them like the flood hit the sinners who ate and drank and got married as though nothing would ever change.

And Jesus always said He had to leave and go to the father so that they would do His things and greater things than those.

Joh 14:12 KJV Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Joh 14:12 KJV Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

He had to go to the Father who was ON THE THRONE IN GLORY.

He was high priest going to the HOLIEST where the throne of the true mercyseat pictured on the ark of the covenant was.


Lev 16:14-16 KJV And he shall take of the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he sprinkle of the blood with his finger seven times. (15) Then shall he kill the goat of the sin offering, that is for the people, and bring his blood within the vail, and do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it upon the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat: (16) And he shall make an atonement for the holy place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions in all their sins: and so shall he do for the tabernacle of the congregation, that remaineth among them in the midst of their uncleanness.

Heb 4:14 KJV Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

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...continued.

The true holiest is not in a temple on earth.

Heb 9:24 KJV For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

Heb 9:12 KJV Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

As the high priest went to the Father in the Old Testament to make atonement with the blood of sacrifice, JESUS WENT TO THE FATHER IN HEAVEN the true holiest of holies.

Lev 16:17 KJV And there shall be no man in the tabernacle of the congregation when he goeth in to make an atonement in the holy place, until he come out, and have made an atonement for himself, and for his household, and for all the congregation of Israel.

Nobody could be there when the high priest went into the holiest to make atonement, lest he be defiled!

When Jesus resurrected...

Joh 20:1 KJV The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

...A week after he rode into Jerusalem.

Joh 20:16-17 KJV Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. (17) Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Jesus was on his way into the holiest to make atonement after He resurrected!

He was going to the FATHER so they could do greater things and He could prepare a place for them!

Joh 14:2-3 KJV In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. (3) And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

So Mary cannot touch Him.

But a week later he says:

Joh 20:26-27 KJV And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. (27) Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

Thomas could touch him, meaning HE MUST HAVE GONE TO THE FATHER AND MADE ATONEMENT!

And THAT is what we see in the book of Revelation, like REVELATION 5 goes behind the scenes that very day.

Rev 4:2 KJV And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

Rev 5:1-2 KJV And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. (2) And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?

No one can go just as none could enter the holiest of holies.... except one.
High priest.


Rev 5:4-6 KJV And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. (5) And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. (6) And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.


And that lamb WENT TO THE THRONE - THE SON WENT TO THE FATHER!

Rev 5:7 KJV And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

That's what Jesus meant earlier when he said he had to go to the Father!

Rev 5:9 KJV And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

And the next time you hear about people from every kindred and nation...

Where no one could go before the throne just a little while ago... suddenly things change!

Rev 7:9 KJV After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

And look... they have PALMS IN THEIR HANDS!!!

And look at what they're saying!

Rev 7:10 KJV And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

HOSANNA means SAVE US, OH KING!
They're cyring salvation to GOD ON THE THRONE AND THE LAMB!
FATHER AND SON!
Jesus went to the throne and SAT DOWN WITH THE FATHER IN THE SAME THRONE!

Rev 3:21 KJV To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

God is both FATHER AND SON!
ONE KING, so to speak!

There's not two kings!

And read on!

Rev 7:15 KJV Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.


They serve him DAY AND NIGHT IN HIS TEMPLE!
Psalm 118

Psa 118:25-26 KJV Save now, I beseech thee, O LORD: O LORD, I beseech thee, (HOSANNA) send now prosperity. (26) Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the LORD: we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD.

THIS TIME everything is right!
People don't just cry Hosanna and reject Him the same day to be changing money in the temple when they should be blessing Him in the temple, these folks are crying HOSANNA and ALSO BLESSING HIM IN THE TEMPLE SERVING HIM DAY AND NIGHT!

What's the temple?

1Pe 2:5 KJV Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

THE CHURCH!

His will in heaven is done here in earth!
His throne in heaven is in our hearts.
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