Are We Slaves To Sin?

[Michael The Disciple]

I talk to a lot of Evangelicals on Paltalk. Almost all of them say they sin every day. If one sins every day are they not living in sin? I know this teaching has made much inroads among Pentecostals also.

If we are living in sin shouldn't we expect to go to Hell? Have we forgotten that:

14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Heb. 12:14

There does not appear to be any middle ground here.

[Abiding Now]

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I talk to a lot of Evangelicals on Paltalk. Almost all of them say they sin every day. If one sins every day are they not living in sin? I know this teaching has made much inroads among Pentecostals also.

If we are living in sin shouldn't we expect to go to Hell? Have we forgotten that:

14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Heb. 12:14

There does not appear to be any middle ground here.

I agree it is a sad day when so many simply say that Jesus is weaker than their sins. It really makes this passage come to life:

2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

The Apostolic teaching cuts through the cloudiness of the doctrines of men. Indeed we are FREE FROM SIN. Jesus did that. Should we listen to teaching that would have us SLAVES to sin?

After all if we are sinning every day and we cannot stop are we not still slaves to it?

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

The Apostolic teaching cuts through the cloudiness of the doctrines of men. Indeed we are FREE FROM SIN. Jesus did that. Should we listen to teaching that would have us SLAVES to sin?

After all if we are sinning every day and we cannot stop are we not still slaves to it?

Romans 7 gives us a glimpse of the struggle between the flesh and spirit.

Chapter 8 opens with the answer to the struggle.

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Luke

I agree it is a sad day when so many simply say that Jesus is weaker than their sins. It really makes this passage come to life:

2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

So true the Apostle said:

4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 1 John 4:4

The God who created millions of Galaxies is alive in the spirit filled believer. He is big enough to conquer sin in our lives.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So true the Apostle said:

4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 1 John 4:4

Here's the clincher...

Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Here's the clincher...

Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

That's it. They say theres NOTHING YOU CAN DO.

Yet the word says IF YOU THROUGH THE SPIRIT.......mortify the deeds of the body you shall live.

So its a delusion that theres nothing we can do. We MUST take up the cross daily and deny self.

23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. 24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it. Luke 9:22-24

Much different than the popular Evangelical message. They think you are a sinner if YOU TRY to do anything.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I talk to a lot of Evangelicals on Paltalk. Almost all of them say they sin every day. If one sins every day are they not living in sin? I know this teaching has made much inroads among Pentecostals also.

If we are living in sin shouldn't we expect to go to Hell? Have we forgotten that:

14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Heb. 12:14

There does not appear to be any middle ground here.

If one's spirit has experienced regeneration through the Holy Spirit it is possible to live an entire day without sin. The problem is that if we don't keep the "mind of Christ" and "walk in the Spirit" our carnal mind will justify the desires of the flesh and we will fall prey to temptation, give in, and sin. However, having a new inner nature... we feel a greater degree of disgust for the action than one who isn't regenerated. This should lead us to confession and repentance.

If a truly born again Christian struggles with continual sin... they must learn how to take on the mind of Christ and walk in the Spirit.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I talk to a lot of Evangelicals on Paltalk. Almost all of them say they sin every day. If one sins every day are they not living in sin? I know this teaching has made much inroads among Pentecostals also.

If we are living in sin shouldn't we expect to go to Hell? Have we forgotten that:

14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Heb. 12:14

There does not appear to be any middle ground here.

What do they mean when they say they sin every day? Are they saying they struggle with the temptation to sin, or do they just outright sin every day? I agree with you, if you're sinning every day, you're living in sin, and if you don't repent and turn away from those sins, you're in danger of judgement.

Romans 6 is one of my favorite passages in the Bible. I believe Paul was addressing the type of people you mention here, who say they sin every day.

1 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase?

2 May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it?

3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?

4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.

5 For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection,

6 Knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;

7 For he who has died is freed from sin

I agree with what Aquila posted as well:

Originally Posted by Aquila

The problem is that if we don't keep the "mind of Christ" and "walk in the Spirit" our carnal mind will justify the desires of the flesh and we will fall prey to temptation, give in, and sin.