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Old 05-29-2007, 07:39 PM
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Why Islam Hates America...it really is about religion

CAIRO, Egypt — An American member of Al Qaeda warned President Bush on Tuesday to end U.S. involvement in all Muslim lands or face an attack worse than the Sept. 11 suicide assault, according to a new videotape. Wearing a white robe and a turban, Adam Yehiye Gadahn, who also goes by the name Azzam al-Amriki, said Al Qaeda would not negotiate on its demands.

"Your failure to heed our demands ... means that you and your people will ... experience things which will make you forget all about the horrors of September 11th, Afghanistan and Iraq and Virginia Tech," he said in the seven-minute video.

Gadahn, who appeared in an Al Qaeda video last September in which he called on Americans to convert to Islam, demanded that Bush remove all U.S. military and spies from Islamic countries, free all Muslims from U.S. prisons and end support for Israel.

He said a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq alone would not satisfy Al Qaeda.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,276252,00.html

Liberals...WAKEUP! Conservatives...WAKEUP! Christians...WAKEUP! Westerners...WAKEUP! Is it our foreign policy? Only in that we are considered by them to have anything to do with a MUSLIM nation and that we have anything to do with ISRAEL. If it were not for their religion, Iraq would be just another nation to them...so would Afghanistan, Phillipines, Iran, Palestine, Lebannon etc etc.
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To them, it IS all about religion. They believe only the world is dominated by Islam will it then have peace. To them, violence is simply necessary to bring peace to the world.

This is not simply about Iraq, Iran or any other Muslim country. This is about total world domination and control. I used to think it would be the Catholic church that would dominate the world in the end times. That has changed for me. I now think it will be Islam.
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It is legalism that is taking over the world. Islamic, Christian, and whatever other distortions of actuality exist. Legalism is taking ovier the world.
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Old 06-08-2007, 01:57 PM
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CAIRO, Egypt — An American member of Al Qaeda warned President Bush on Tuesday to end U.S. involvement in all Muslim lands or face an attack worse than the Sept. 11 suicide assault, according to a new videotape. Wearing a white robe and a turban, Adam Yehiye Gadahn, who also goes by the name Azzam al-Amriki, said Al Qaeda would not negotiate on its demands.

"Your failure to heed our demands ... means that you and your people will ... experience things which will make you forget all about the horrors of September 11th, Afghanistan and Iraq and Virginia Tech," he said in the seven-minute video.

Gadahn, who appeared in an Al Qaeda video last September in which he called on Americans to convert to Islam, demanded that Bush remove all U.S. military and spies from Islamic countries, free all Muslims from U.S. prisons and end support for Israel.

He said a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq alone would not satisfy Al Qaeda.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,276252,00.html

Liberals...WAKEUP! Conservatives...WAKEUP! Christians...WAKEUP! Westerners...WAKEUP! Is it our foreign policy? Only in that we are considered by them to have anything to do with a MUSLIM nation and that we have anything to do with ISRAEL. If it were not for their religion, Iraq would be just another nation to them...so would Afghanistan, Phillipines, Iran, Palestine, Lebannon etc etc.
What you cited shows that it is our foreign policy.
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Old 06-08-2007, 01:59 PM
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To them, it IS all about religion. They believe only the world is dominated by Islam will it then have peace. To them, violence is simply necessary to bring peace to the world.

This is not simply about Iraq, Iran or any other Muslim country. This is about total world domination and control. I used to think it would be the Catholic church that would dominate the world in the end times. That has changed for me. I now think it will be Islam.
The Catholic Church did dominate in Europe for more than a thousand years - often with violence.
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:27 PM
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What you cited shows that it is our foreign policy.
You must have over looked this part

called on Americans to convert to Islam, demanded that Bush remove all U.S. military and spies from Islamic countries, free all Muslims from U.S. prisons and end support for Israel.

He said a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq alone would not satisfy Al Qaeda.

Withdrawing from Iraq alone would not satisfy who? Al Qaeda...not all muslims.

What would satisfy them? Removing all troops from all muslim countries...who decides what is a muslim country? Al Qaeda.

He is not talking about just getting troops out of Iraq but even having no involvement with those that are allies like Turkey and Pakistan. So a minority dictates who we can be allies with? It's NOT foreign policy. It's THEIR religious and political form of Islam. All Islam was NOT against us prior to 9/11. They were not seeking our distructions. And the ones that were for it were mostly that way because we support Israel, not because we have military in other Islamic nations.

Support Israel and many Muslims are against you why? Why is it a Muslim thing and not a Palestinian thing? Because it's about the religion called Islam
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The Catholic Church did dominate in Europe for more than a thousand years - often with violence.
He said in the end times
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Old 06-11-2007, 02:24 PM
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You must have over looked this part

called on Americans to convert to Islam, demanded that Bush remove all U.S. military and spies from Islamic countries, free all Muslims from U.S. prisons and end support for Israel.

He said a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq alone would not satisfy Al Qaeda.

Withdrawing from Iraq alone would not satisfy who? Al Qaeda...not all muslims.

What would satisfy them? Removing all troops from all muslim countries...who decides what is a muslim country? Al Qaeda.

He is not talking about just getting troops out of Iraq but even having no involvement with those that are allies like Turkey and Pakistan. So a minority dictates who we can be allies with? It's NOT foreign policy. It's THEIR religious and political form of Islam. All Islam was NOT against us prior to 9/11. They were not seeking our distructions. And the ones that were for it were mostly that way because we support Israel, not because we have military in other Islamic nations.

Support Israel and many Muslims are against you why? Why is it a Muslim thing and not a Palestinian thing? Because it's about the religion called Islam
No, I didn't overlook any of it. I don't deny that America's support for Israel plays some role in the Islamic terrorists' retaliation against America. I don't deny that they called on America to convert to Islam (not unlike the way Christians call for all nations to convert to Christianity). What you seem to be missing is that the retaliations against the United States were predominantly for our foreign policy IN THE MIDDLE EAST since the 1950s.
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Old 06-11-2007, 02:25 PM
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He said in the end times
Even Christians in the first century thought they were in the end times.
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Even Christians in the first century thought they were in the end times.
And? NObody is arguing we are in the end times here lol
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