The Oneness Anti "Christ" doctrine ....

[SDG]

I remember, in the early 1990's, here in Houston, there were a group of ultraconservative churches headed by some extreme pastors who were killing the rest of the Spanish-speaking fellowship for using the word "Cristo" or Christ.

They believed that those who used the term lacked revelation and were somehow unholy being that Jesus is his name. Christ was reference to his flesh .... They asserted that after the resurrection, and his subsequent glorification, he was no longer the Christ [flesh] .... the Christ died at Calvary.

They even formulated a well-thought out doctrine to support this belief. They sought to lift the name of Jesus Christ and shunned those that used "Christ" in their testimonies, songs, or preachings.

Dozens of songs containing Christ/Cristo were edited and the name Jesus replaced the blasphemous lyrics .... even if it disregarded rhyme or the author's intent

It was their new "revelation", and air of higher spirituality, that brought huge division and problems to the Spanish work especially here in the Houston area.

Ironically, some of these ministers leading "the revelation" were dealing with other immoral issues.

Even today, this teaching is pervasive in many Spanish speaking churches, especially here in the South.

I also recall Bishop Scotty Teets stating that this teaching was formulated many years ago by an American pastor ... does anyone know anything about the genesis of this teaching ?

[Sam]

Dan,
I don't know anything about that particular teaching or emphasis.
But, just as the term "God" can be pretty generic and used by unbelievers, modernists and new agers, so can the term "Christ." The term "Christ" can be used in a way that applies to and lumps together all different folks that were teachers, moralists, reformers, humanists, etc. Gautama Buddha, Confucius, Mahatma Ghandi, Mohammed, etc can all be considered anointed teachers or christs by folks like Oprah, Shirley McLaine, etc.

Yes, Jesus was and still is the Christ/Messiah/Anointed One and we can call Him that. But His name (and God's highest name) is Jesus. Terms like God and Christ can be awfully generic, but if we call Him Jesus Christ it has a little more power.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Sam

Dan,
I don't know anything about that particular teaching or emphasis.
But, just as the term "God" can be pretty generic and used by unbelievers, modernists and new agers, so can the term "Christ." The term "Christ" can be used in a way that applies to and lumps together all different folks that were teachers, moralists, reformers, humanists, etc. Gautama Buddha, Confucius, Mahatma Ghandi, Mohammed, etc can all be considered anointed teachers or christs by folks like Oprah, Shirley McLaine, etc.

Yes, Jesus was and still is the Christ/Messiah/Anointed One and we can call Him that. But His name (and God's highest name) is Jesus. Terms like God and Christ can be awfully generic, but if we call Him Jesus Christ it has a little more power.

Recently a friend told me that he is sometimes feels a little uncomfortable if someone uses Christ too much in their dialogue .... Does anyone else feel this way also?

[Scott Hutchinson]

DAN I think this is really referred to as Jesus Only.
The Jesus Only group baptizes saying In The Name Of Jesus and not Jesus Christ because they say that the name Christ glorifies the flesh of Jesus.
Of course Christ means Messiah or anointed one ,there were and are many Jesuses in the world and false messiahs or Christs but there was only virgin borned Messiah Jesus The Christ.
I think the Jesus Only group teaches that when Jesus was here on the earth ,Heaven was vacant of God.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Recently a friend told me that he is sometimes feels a little uncomfortable if someone uses Christ too much in their dialogue .... Does anyone else feel this way also?

Yes, it bothers me when people speak about "God" and/or "Christ" but don't use His name --Jesus. I don't know if I explained my feelings about that in my post or not but "Christ" is something Oprah and other newagers would use. Spritualists and witches could use the term "Christ" also. Maybe I'm off here and maybe I'm not explaining it well.

Ac 17:3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Anybody I've ever baptized I did it in the name of Jesus Christ ,I will never just say in The Name Of Jesus ,I want the believer being baptized to be buried with Him or indentified with HIM in the name of The One True Messiah.

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Anybody I've ever baptized I did it in the name of Jesus Christ ,I will never just say in The Name Of Jesus ,I want the believer being baptized to be buried with Him or indentified with HIM in the name of The One True Messiah.

Ac 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Anybody I've ever baptized I did it in the name of Jesus Christ ,I will never just say in The Name Of Jesus ,I want the believer being baptized to be buried with Him or indentified with HIM in the name of The One True Messiah.

I have to agree with this formula Scott .... Peter used this terminology ... in my opinion to distinguish Jesus Christ with the other Yeshuas of the time ...

I just don't get why some are uncomfortable w/ the term Christ .. with a capital "C" ... we know his name is Jesus .... but Paul uses this term Christ exclusively many times ... to say it's somehow a lack of revelation baffles me ....

[SDG]

This group had no problem with the mention of Jesus ... or Jesus Christ ... but would have fits .. at national conferences if someone mentioned the word Christ alone.