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Old 08-24-2012, 09:48 PM
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Cycles of Personal Punishment

The Cycles of Personal Punishment are the outline of divine punitive discipline upon individual believers and unbelievers. The punishment of the unbeliever is due to rejection of the gift of Eternal Life. The punishment of the believer is for failure to execute the unique Spiritual Life of all human history.

Cycles of Punishment

Cycle/Executed by/Scripture/Remarks
1. Negative Volition Individual Jn 3:18; 1 Cor. 11:31 Tree in the Garden
2. Scar Tissue of the Soul Lord Jesus Christ Rom. 9:18 "He hardens"
3. Punishment Holy Spirit 1 Cor. 11:32; Heb. 12:6 Warning Punishment
4. Weakness, Sickness Holy Spirit 1 Cor. 11:30 Intensified Punishment
5. Grace Lord Jesus Christ Rom. 9:15 Helpless candidate for grace
6. Metrics Hypostatic Union Humanity of Christ Rom. 5:1; Eph. 4:13;
1 Pet. 2:8 Life or death - God's Sovereign Decision
7. Categorical Punishment Holy Spirit Dan 4:16, 23, 25, 32;
Rom. 5:2-5 Momentum, Stress, Endurance

1. Every individual believer or unbeliever operates under the Law of Volitional Responsibility...
http://www.biblenews1.com/define/punishcycle.htm

The nitty gritty. His model seems very effective.
I believe many depressions fall under #4. Thoughts?

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Old 08-24-2012, 10:12 PM
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Scar Tissue in Reversionism

Reversionism

Reversionism is living in a state of carnality under the power of the Old Sin Nature and the Cosmic System. For the unbeliever, reversionism is rejecting the gospel. For the Christian, reversionism is failing to Rebound. The Christian who fails to Rebound is quenching and grieving the Holy Spirit. Moses used the Head and Tail Model to explain the two types of believers.

The believer who obeyed Bible Doctrine was called a head, while the carnal believer who refused to Rebound was called a tail. In the Church Age, the Filling of the Holy Spirit controls the soul of the believer who is a head; while the Old Sin Nature controls the soul of the carnal believer, who is a tail. When there is no Bible Doctrine in the thinking on the cerebral cortex, a vacuum will be opened up in the soul which will suck the soul into the Cosmic System.

Illustration: Vacuum in the Soul

As the vacuum in the soul opens up, the emotions will quickly revolt to fill the void. As the emotional swings become wider, the soul will break outside the control limits. In other words, it's OK to have emotion as long as it doesn't get out of control. When a person agrees with lust and sins, then control is lost; and the soul will wind out of control.

The soul that is out of control has the characteristics of the tail with trends toward lawlessness (green line) and legalism (blue line). The soul in legalism or lawlessness is grieving or quenching the Holy Spirit so long as the person refuses to Rebound.

Control Limits: Teeter Totter | Emotional Swings

Rejection of the grace solution puts the reversionist on a road that leads to the grave...
http://www.biblenews1.com/scartis/sc...m#Reversionism

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Spiritual Growth

and I think I'll just bury the best for last here...

Spiritual growth is the expansion of the Edification Complex of the Soul through metabolization of Bible Doctrine. As Bible Doctrine is metabolized, the Holy Spirit will add new rooms, furnishings, and knowledge pathways to the ECS. However, before the ECS can be expanded, the ground must be cleared just as the woods must be cleared before building or farming.

The soul outside the ECS is like unclaimed wilderness or new ground that must be cleared of trees, stumps, and roots. The illustration of the Soul Wilderness shows the wilderness and the clearing upon which the ECS is erected. The clearing process involves removing worldliness (trees), stumps (bad values), and roots (subconscious garbage).

In the Tabernacle the priests trimmed the wicks of the lamps everyday to symbolize that the burnings (production) of yesterday are no good for today. The charred wicks are analogous to the wilderness that must be cleared prior to additions to the ECS.

The clearing of the wilderness of the soul is accomplished by special Testing...
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Re: Cycles of Personal Punishment

ok, Timmy thinks this guy is a "nut;"
and I can't think of a better recommendation
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ok, Timmy thinks this guy is a "nut;"
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Re: Cycles of Personal Punishment

This is such an interesting series of articles, I'll have to have more time to read through them all thoroughly. Who is this guy and what are his initial beliefs?
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This is such an interesting series of articles, I'll have to have more time to read through them all thoroughly. Who is this guy and what are his initial beliefs?
Ha, just some site AYR threaded to, he's a pastor of a home church in FL, retired NASA. The site map is prolly the best way around, and it takes a week or so of reading him to start to get his lexicon down; he has many unfamiliar terms, for things that one has but really doesn't have a term for presently. I'd say his beliefs are pretty mainstream, with some minor surprises, but Scripturally backed. Don't miss "Mystery Babylon," um, "Joseph" was awesome, "Moses and Pharoah" was great...he extrapolates from Scripture sometimes, but his doctrine seems pretty sound, and most of all, productive.
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