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Old 05-01-2012, 06:22 PM
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Ann Coulter - Negroes With Guns

Great piece by Ann Coulter--very intriguing take on the connection between racism, the Klan and gun control laws:

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-04-18.html

[I]"...Gun control laws were originally promulgated by Democrats to keep guns out of the hands of blacks. This allowed the Democratic policy of slavery to proceed with fewer bumps and, after the Civil War, allowed the Democratic Ku Klux Klan to menace and murder black Americans with little resistance.

(Contrary to what illiterates believe, the KKK was an outgrowth of the Democratic Party, with overlapping membership rolls. The Klan was to the Democrats what the American Civil Liberties Union is today: Not every Democrat is an ACLU'er, but every ACLU'er is a Democrat. Same with the Klan.)

In 1640, the very first gun control law ever enacted on these shores was passed in Virginia. It provided that blacks -- even freemen -- could not own guns.

Chief Justice Roger Taney's infamous opinion in Dred Scott v. Sandford circularly argued that blacks could not be citizens because if they were citizens, they would have the right to own guns: "t would give them the full liberty," he said, "to keep and carry arms wherever they went."


"...Under authority of the Anti-Klan Act, President Grant deployed the U.S. military to destroy the Klan, and pretty nearly completed the job.

But the Klan had a few resurgences in the early and mid-20th century. Curiously, wherever the Klan became a political force, gun control laws would suddenly appear on the books..."

"The NRA's proud history of fighting the Klan has been airbrushed out of the record by those who were complicit with the KKK, Jim Crow and racial terror, to wit: the Democrats.
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Yep, some have no clue gun controls laws were to surpress blacks.
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Great piece by Ann Coulter--very intriguing take on the connection between racism, the Klan and gun control laws:

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-04-18.html

[I]"...Gun control laws were originally promulgated by Democrats to keep guns out of the hands of blacks. This allowed the Democratic policy of slavery to proceed with fewer bumps and, after the Civil War, allowed the Democratic Ku Klux Klan to menace and murder black Americans with little resistance.

(Contrary to what illiterates believe, the KKK was an outgrowth of the Democratic Party, with overlapping membership rolls. The Klan was to the Democrats what the American Civil Liberties Union is today: Not every Democrat is an ACLU'er, but every ACLU'er is a Democrat. Same with the Klan.)

In 1640, the very first gun control law ever enacted on these shores was passed in Virginia. It provided that blacks -- even freemen -- could not own guns.

Chief Justice Roger Taney's infamous opinion in Dred Scott v. Sandford circularly argued that blacks could not be citizens because if they were citizens, they would have the right to own guns: "t would give them the full liberty," he said, "to keep and carry arms wherever they went."


"...Under authority of the Anti-Klan Act, President Grant deployed the U.S. military to destroy the Klan, and pretty nearly completed the job.

But the Klan had a few resurgences in the early and mid-20th century. Curiously, wherever the Klan became a political force, gun control laws would suddenly appear on the books..."

"The NRA's proud history of fighting the Klan has been airbrushed out of the record by those who were complicit with the KKK, Jim Crow and racial terror, to wit: the Democrats.
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dont confuse them with the facts bratt
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facts, or fascists?
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Re: Ann Coulter - Negroes With Guns

Is there anyone who is willing to make the argument that today's Democrat Party is the same Democrat Party of the 1950's and prior?

I know of a few that are willing to make the argument that today's Republican Party has more in common with the Democrat Party of years ago-- but most Republicans today don't like that comparison.

The comparison wouldn't bother me so much if I there was no truth to such a comparison, but there is. Even still, most Republicans are not Klansmen, but you ask a Klansmen TODAY what party they will usually vote for and I GUARANTEE they won't say Democrat.

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those that ignore the past are guaranteed to repeat it JD,fact of the matter is the republicans have never done what the dems have, past or present in race relations only in in the dems minds,same old debate tactic draw attention away fro your guilt by accusing someone else of something.planned parenthood was an anti black movement and so was the anti gun movement.
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Is there anyone who is willing to make the argument that today's Democrat Party is the same Democrat Party of the 1950's and prior?

I know of a few that are willing to make the argument that today's Republican Party has more in common with the Democrat Party of years ago-- but most Republicans today don't like that comparison.

The comparison wouldn't bother me so much if I there was no truth to such a comparison, but there is. Even still, most Republicans are not Klansmen, but you ask a Klansmen TODAY what party they will usually vote for and I GUARANTEE they won't say Democrat.

That's debatable. From Wiki:

"...Its predecessor had been an exclusively partisan Democratic organization in the South. The second Klan grew in the Midwest, where for a time, its members were courted by both Republicans and Democrats. The KKK state organizations endorsed candidates from either party that supported its goals; Prohibition in particular helped the Klan and some Republicans to make common cause in the Midwest. In the South, however, the southern Klan remained Democratic, closely allied with Democratic police, sheriffs, and other functionaries of local government. With continuing disfranchisement of most African Americans and many poor whites, the only political activity took place within the Democratic Party."

If and when the KKK does align itself with Republicans, it would only be because they share a platform on limiting immigration and opposing Affirmative Action. The latter I will never understand. Affirmative Action is one of the most racist measures ever created. It assumes two things: 1. The inherent racism on the part of employers or educators, and 2. The inherent weaknesses in a particular race causing the need for special concessions to be made in order for them to compete.

JD, I lived in Louisiana for awhile, and I can assure you that some of the most nasty racists I know are Democrats--not Republicans. They don't try to hide it, either. It would be a mistake to think that those old racist hacks have changed their party affiliation. They only recent reason I can think of for them to do that would be their party electing a half-black President. THAT might cause a few Klansmen or White Power elitists to make a move, but I doubt it.

The idea that Republicans are racist is an idea that has been successfully pandered by the MSM and a few ignorant politicians or public figures, but anyone who knows about the Klan and history knows that Democrats are the ones who have historically oppressed minorities. IMO, Democrats are still oppressing minorities with the emphasis placed on the nanny state-- not encouraging them into education and the workplace instead of remaining on government support and thus never allowing them to become strong, independent citizens. It is to the Democrats' political advantage to keep this ruse going, because it insures votes--no matter how ignorantly those votes are placed. Democrats need to keep people ignorant and dependent in order to get votes.
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That's debatable. From Wiki:

"...Its predecessor had been an exclusively partisan Democratic organization in the South. The second Klan grew in the Midwest, where for a time, its members were courted by both Republicans and Democrats. The KKK state organizations endorsed candidates from either party that supported its goals; Prohibition in particular helped the Klan and some Republicans to make common cause in the Midwest. In the South, however, the southern Klan remained Democratic, closely allied with Democratic police, sheriffs, and other functionaries of local government. With continuing disfranchisement of most African Americans and many poor whites, the only political activity took place within the Democratic Party."

If and when the KKK does align itself with Republicans, it would only be because they share a platform on limiting immigration and opposing Affirmative Action. The latter I will never understand. Affirmative Action is one of the most racist measures ever created. It assumes two things: 1. The inherent racism on the part of employers or educators, and 2. The inherent weaknesses in a particular race causing the need for special concessions to be made in order for them to compete.

JD, I lived in Louisiana for awhile, and I can assure you that some of the most nasty racists I know are Democrats--not Republicans. They don't try to hide it, either. It would be a mistake to think that those old racist hacks have changed their party affiliation. They only recent reason I can think of for them to do that would be their party electing a half-black President. THAT might cause a few Klansmen or White Power elitists to make a move, but I doubt it.

The idea that Republicans are racist is an idea that has been successfully pandered by the MSM and a few ignorant politicians or public figures, but anyone who knows about the Klan and history knows that Democrats are the ones who have historically oppressed minorities. IMO, Democrats are still oppressing minorities with the emphasis placed on the nanny state-- not encouraging them into education and the workplace instead of remaining on government support and thus never allowing them to become strong, independent citizens. It is to the Democrats' political advantage to keep this ruse going, because it insures votes--no matter how ignorantly those votes are placed. Democrats need to keep people ignorant and dependent in order to get votes.
LOL. Considering most of the recent statistics show democrats are more likely to be educated (think young college students, the kind that got BHO elected) then I'd say you have no basis for the claim that democrats want to keep people ignorant. For as intelligent of a woman as you are MissB, you can do alot better than that and that overly biased article you posted.
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Is there anyone who is willing to make the argument that today's Democrat Party is the same Democrat Party of the 1950's and prior?

I know of a few that are willing to make the argument that today's Republican Party has more in common with the Democrat Party of years ago-- but most Republicans today don't like that comparison.

The comparison wouldn't bother me so much if I there was no truth to such a comparison, but there is. Even still, most Republicans are not Klansmen, but you ask a Klansmen TODAY what party they will usually vote for and I GUARANTEE they won't say Democrat.

That's my perception also.
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Boy, bias runs deep on both sides of this argument.
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