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Old 06-15-2011, 01:55 PM
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ATF helped arm Mexican Cartels

A U.S. law enforcement operation intended to crack down on major weapons traffickers on the Southwest border spiraled out of control as federal agents were told by superiors to "stand down" and ignore weapons bought in Arizona headed for Mexico, a House panel heard Wednesday.
Three federal firearms investigators told the House Oversight and Government Reform committee that they wanted to "intervene and interdict" loads of guns, but were repeatedly ordered to step aside.
"Allowing loads of weapons that we knew to be destined for criminals -- this was the plan," John Dodson, a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agent who testified to the panel. "It was so mandated."
He added: "My supervisors directed me and my colleagues not to make any stop or arrest, but rather, to keep the straw purchaser under surveillance while allowing the guns to walk."
ATF agent Olindo James Casa said that "on several occasions I personally requested to interdict or seize firearms, but I was always ordered to stand down and not to seize the firearms."
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Old 06-15-2011, 03:05 PM
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Re: ATF helped arm Mexican Cartels

This i believe is all part of the grand plan to take away gun rights in this country,because they have always said the reason they need to do that in this country, is because of the easy puchase of guns in this country which are then taken to Mexico, which had been proven FALSE because they were getting full automatic weapons from China and other countries in South America ,stealing them from their own police agencys and military, much much more sphisticated weapons like SAWS ,then they ever could buy here . I saw a vid online of a Mexican drug battle with police that sounded like a fire fight in Iraq that proved that. So in other words they were cooking the science like" Barwrecks" people are wont to do to satisfy their own leftist agendi n this country!!!

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Old 06-15-2011, 03:12 PM
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Re: ATF helped arm Mexican Cartels

So, not only is the US arming the Mexican Drug Cartels
but
the U.S. and NATO are aiding Al Queda in Libya in their struggle against Qaddafi.

What is our government doing?
trying to destroy us?
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Old 06-15-2011, 03:24 PM
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Re: ATF helped arm Mexican Cartels

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This i believe is all part of the grand plan to take away gun rights in this country...

I think you are right.

When our republic was born, they had just escaped a tyrannical government and did not want to return to that type government. So, a loose confederation of states was formed called the United States. A federal government was given limited power and the 10th amendment specified that whatever authority was not specifically granted to the federal government was to remain under the power of the individual states.

Abraham Lincoln destroyed that concept and set aside the constitution by seizing unprecedented power. Since then the federal government has morphed into a huge Frankenstein type monster taking away more and more states' rights and individual rights. Our founding fathers wanted an armed citizenry so they could fight back against a federal government if it tried to become too large or intrusive. I think our federal government has grown way beyond what the founding fathers would consider an evil threat. There are still too many people ignorantly "clinging to their God and their guns" as the current White House Socialist said as he campaigned. I am sure his goal is to reduce this once great country to a second rate socialist state like Greece or Spain where we are all dependent upon the nanny state from the cradle to the grave and have no weapons to fight off its encroachment on us.
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So, not only is the US arming the Mexican Drug Cartels
but
the U.S. and NATO are aiding Al Queda in Libya in their struggle against Qaddafi.

What is our government doing?
trying to destroy us?
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Re: ATF helped arm Mexican Cartels

What hacks me off is AZ has been constantly criticized by politicians and this administration for gun shows and sales of guns.

Then we find out this admin required a few dealers here to do what they knew was wrong and what these dealers normally wouldn't do.

I hope every idiot who signed off on this is tossed in federal prison. It'd be great if they could be sentenced to Sheriff Joe's tent city, but I'd settle for a few decades in a federal prison.
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...I hope every idiot who signed off on this is tossed in federal prison. It'd be great if they could be sentenced to Sheriff Joe's tent city, but I'd settle for a few decades in a federal prison.
Don't hold your breath till this happens.
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