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02-27-2011, 05:24 PM
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romans 16;17 Now i beseech you brethren, mark them which cause divisions, and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned and avoid them. just where do we draw the line
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02-27-2011, 05:28 PM
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Re: mark them
Are you kidding...there's a line in being a believer? Seems like it's popular to draw the line just shy of Hitler, Judas and Obama. Everyone else gets in by grace...
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02-27-2011, 05:43 PM
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Re: mark them
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Originally Posted by Rob McKee
Are you kidding...there's a line in being a believer? Seems like it's popular to draw the line just shy of Hitler, Judas and Obama. Everyone else gets in by grace...
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rob what are your thoughts on this scripture honestly
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02-27-2011, 06:44 PM
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Re: mark them
hopin someone would answer soon
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02-27-2011, 06:57 PM
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Re: mark them
There are certainly those who stay within a certain organization or church who agree with almost nothing they teach and do nothing but try and tear down everything around them.
If you do NOT agree with a given org's policies my advice is to just leave! Some will say "Well I have loved ones that I want to reach!", to which I say you can still talk to your loved ones and try to convince them of anything you want, but do not play the part of a saboteur and stay in the org/church for the purpose of ruining it.
If your going to plunge the figurative knife into someone, don't do it from behind! Do it from the front where you and everyone is visible!
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02-27-2011, 07:12 PM
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Re: mark them
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
There are certainly those who stay within a certain organization or church who agree with almost nothing they teach and do nothing but try and tear down everything around them.
If you do NOT agree with a given org's policies my advice is to just leave! Some will say "Well I have loved ones that I want to reach!", to which I say you can still talk to your loved ones and try to convince them of anything you want, but do not play the part of a saboteur and stay in the org/church for the purpose of ruining it.
If your going to plunge the figurative knife into someone, don't do it from behind! Do it from the front where you and everyone is visible!
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interesting,
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02-27-2011, 10:19 PM
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Re: mark them
I think if you disagreed with the apostles on anything they said they would draw a line there.
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02-28-2011, 08:23 AM
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Loren Adkins
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Re: mark them
You mean mark them if they bring division and different teachings, like the early Pentecostals of the early 1900's that began to teach you were not save unless you received the holy ghost with evidnece of speaking with tongues. And were not saved if you had not been baptized having the specific name of Jesus spoken over you by a preist or official preacher officiating. Or maybe you were not saved if you did not obey the official organizations or church pastors personal veiw on what his standards of holiness were.
I don't know I think the pot is calling the kettle black.
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02-28-2011, 10:15 AM
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Re: mark them
In my opinion:
There is only one Church, God's Church, the Body of Christ, and it is made up of all who have believed in the death burial and resurrection of Jesus.
Those who cause divisions are those who:
1. either gather a little group around them and anathemize all others who do not belong to that organization/denomination/union
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2. add requirements for salvation such as being baptized in water, speaking with tongues, being water baptized with certain words spoken during the ritual, requiring certain dress codes, etc. and regarding all who do not accept and conform to these extra-biblical requirements as not being saved.
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02-28-2011, 12:03 PM
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Austin
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Re: mark them
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Originally Posted by faithit166
romans 16;17 Now i beseech you brethren, mark them which cause divisions, and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned and avoid them. just where do we draw the line
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After reading the verse it's look like a bunch of fat guys with an education hanging around christian people. Looks like the christians are working in the service of the Lord and the fat guys are just doing a lot of talking..
Last edited by Austin; 02-28-2011 at 12:05 PM.
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