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Old 04-25-2007, 02:20 PM
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Rebel Yell!!

I am in support of TV. I own 4. However part of me thinks it is cowardly for an AS signing preacher to go against the org. and own or advertise anyway.

I mean if you don't agree to the point of being dishonest how is that any better.

Can any of my liberal brothers set me straight?
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:21 PM
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Nope, you are right.
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:28 PM
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I'm of the belief that if you are going to believe something -- live it.
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:29 PM
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I am in support of TV. I own 4. However part of me thinks it is cowardly for an AS signing preacher to go against the org. and own or advertise anyway.

I mean if you don't agree to the point of being dishonest how is that any better.

Can any of my liberal brothers set me straight?

I never understood why someone would want to be part of an org and sign something they don't believe or practice.

Either you agree with and live by the 'by laws' or you don't.
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:30 PM
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I'm of the belief that if you are going to believe something -- live it.
so how does that work to my question?

Rebel? (stay in)

or

Yell? (get out)
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:31 PM
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Personal opinion.
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:33 PM
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so how does that work to my question?

Rebel? (stay in)

or

Yell? (get out)
Yell -- I honestly believe that there is no such thing as "changing from within". But that's just me.
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:35 PM
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Yell -- I honestly believe that there is no such thing as "changing from within". But that's just me.
although it is happening. Go across the street and read about the success in deltaguitars UPC - TV - advertising church.
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:39 PM
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although it is happening. Go across the street and read about the success in deltaguitars UPC - TV - advertising church.
There is more than just TV that needs changing but point is taken.
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:44 PM
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I am in support of TV. I own 4. However part of me thinks it is cowardly for an AS signing preacher to go against the org. and own or advertise anyway.

I mean if you don't agree to the point of being dishonest how is that any better.

Can any of my liberal brothers set me straight?
I am not sure there is anything dishonest about it. I am sure that in our district it is no secret that we have been advertising.

Truthfully, it would be a lot easier for the UPC to kick us out than cause a stir in our church by trying to convince the church members that we need to get out.

Remember, we are in a period of transition. There has to be some preachers who push the issue in the correct way so that the positive effects of TV can be demonstrated.

In my opinion, preachers who are leading the way towards TV are leaders in our movement. Not cowards.
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