The most controversial pastor in North America

[Apocrypha]

Ladies and gentlemen (and Timmy),

I introduce you to a big influence on me in the last few years... Mark Driscoll of Mars Hill Church, Seattle WA.

He teaches that the Song of Soloman isn't a allegory of Gods love for the church... and if it was it would put Christ in the odd position of touching a guy in a unmodest way.

He teaches alcohol is ok in moderation.

He teaches hell is super hot and ticks off liberals.

He teaches that ladies should focus on their families before jobs.

He has the 15th fastest growing church in the nation in one of the toughest and most liberal towns in America with 9000 showing up every week.

The SBC has tried to ban his books, the liberals say hes a homophobe, Focus on the Family banned him because he said Song of Soloman is gay when you make it a allegory instead of a romance story.

http://persiflagethis.blogspot.com/2...-driscoll.html

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Apocrypha

Ladies and gentlemen (and Timmy),

I introduce you to a big influence on me in the last few years... Mark Driscoll of Mars Hill Church, Seattle WA.

He teaches that the Song of Soloman isn't a allegory of Gods love for the church... and if it was it would put Christ in the odd position of touching a guy in a unmodest way.

He teaches alcohol is ok in moderation.

He teaches hell is super hot and ticks off liberals.

He teaches that ladies should focus on their families before jobs.

He has the 15th fastest growing church in the nation in one of the toughest and most liberal towns in America with 9000 showing up every week.

The SBC has tried to ban his books, the liberals say hes a homophobe, Focus on the Family banned him because he said Song of Soloman is gay when you make it a allegory instead of a romance story.

http://persiflagethis.blogspot.com/2...-driscoll.html

Emerging church.

[Apocrypha]

Originally Posted by coadie

Emerging church.

Actually he is one of its most vocal critics. But thanks or your imput

Driscoll, in sermons, has claimed to be "Emerging" or "Emerging Reformed" but not "Emergent."[14][15]

His description of his association with, and eventual distancing from the Emergent Church movement:[16]

In the mid-1990s I was part of what is now known as the Emerging Church and spent some time traveling the country to speak on the emerging church in the emerging culture on a team put together by Leadership Network called the Young Leader Network. But, I eventually had to distance myself from the Emergent stream of the network because friends like Brian McLaren and Doug Pagitt began pushing a theological agenda that greatly troubled me. Examples include referring to God as a chick, questioning God's sovereignty over and knowledge of the future, denial of the substitutionary atonement at the cross, a low view of Scripture, and denial of hell which is one hell of a mistake.

Driscoll, along with Leif Moi, Mike Gunn, and the Acts 29 network of independent churches, is part of the missional theology community that adheres to classical Calvinist, or Reformed, theology and views their mission as communicating this school of theology to "modern" people (Emerging Reformed).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Dr...hurch_Movement

[coadie]

Driscoll first picked up his reputation when thousands met him in Donald Miller's Blue Like Jazz as Mark the Cussing Pastor

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/...ber/30.44.html

[Apocrypha]

Originally Posted by coadie

Driscoll first picked up his reputation when thousands met him in Donald Miller's Blue Like Jazz as Mark the Cussing Pastor

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/...ber/30.44.html

Donald Miller is one of his biggest critics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Miller_(author)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Like_Jazz

[rgcraig]

I never thought Song of Solomon was anything but a love story!

[coadie]

Venerable Reformed expositor John MacArthur has complimented Driscoll's soteriology. He is thankful that Driscoll stresses substitutionary atonement and justification by faith alone. But that doesn't make up for his "infatuation with the vulgar aspects of contemporary society," MacArthur wrote last December in Pulpit magazine.

Bring in the booze.

[mizpeh]

“You are not your job. You are not how much you have in the bank. You are not the contents of your wallet. You are not your khakis. You are not the shoes you wear. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.”
- Tyler Durden, from Fight Club

Apo, your signature line reminds me of something I've had on my refrigerator for over 15 years:

It is illogical to reason thus, "I am richer than you, therefore I am superior to you," "I am more eloquent than you, therefore I am superior to you." It is more logical to reason, "I am richer than you, therefore my property is superior to yours," "I am more eloquent than you, therefore my speech is superior to yours." You are something more than property or speech.

Epictetus, Discourses

and Luke 12:23 The life is more than meat, and the body is more than raiment.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I never thought Song of Solomon was anything but a love story!

[coadie]

http://www.enjoyinggodministries.com...church-part-i/

Thus, in summary, the Emergent “conversation” is often dominated by its perception of widespread cultural change and how the church has or has not adapted. Carson will focus much of his discussion both on how Emergent leaders have diagnosed the changes in our culture as well as their prescription for what the church must do if it hopes to maintain its public profile and exert a measure of influence for the kingdom of God. Carson is right to ask the following question, and with it I’ll close this first installment of my summation of his book:

Pentecostals are a Spirit led movement. The emergents are a culture driven movement.